Ok the birther law is funny, BUT it is hysterical

[nadinbrzezinski]

for another reason.

1.- Muslims DO circumcise their kids... funny shit isn't it?

2.- You know who mostly does not? Hispanics... especially those from Mexican origin. (Don't ask how I know this, but I do)...

Funny shit indeed.

[Taverner]

1. Huh? I'm missing something here...

Does the birther law require presidential candidates to whack off the ends of their penises?

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. To show that's been done

it is as good as your certificate. I mean good (white) bloodied Americans do this. THe history is a riot all on it's own, but saved the lives of a few Jews during WW II. How could Germans know if a POW was Jewish? Well look down there. In Europe it worked. But Americans circumcised most of their kids,,, Jew or not.

Crooks and Liars has some of the text. It is hysterical

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. Here you go

Arizona Law Says Lack of Foreskin Acceptable Proof of Citizenship

Part of the controversial Arizona birther bill passed on Wednesday makes a certificate of circumcision (given to parent of a Jewish child after the religiously significant procedure is performed) acceptable proof of American citizenship for presidential candidates. While candidates won't be asked to "whip it out" in the State House, a documented circumcision will join a verified Christian baptism, postpartum hospital records and long-form birth certificiates as proof that candidates are indeed Americans.

Governor Brewer of Arizona has not taken a public stand on the bill, and will now have five days to sign or veto it before the law is automatically enacted.

There is likely to be much public debate over the bill, which seems to be validating the possession of a penis and/or demonstrable Judeo-Christian upbringing as preferrable characteristics of presidential candidates. Not to mention the fact that neither a certificate of circumcision nor baptismal record are in any way legal documents.

The circumcision issue is an interesting twist in the birther agenda, coming at a time when the humaneness of male circumcision--both in the U.S. and abroad-- is under hot debate. One might question if the radical birthers are now not only trying to shape the definition of who makes a viable U.S. president, but also what makes an American penis.

http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/az-birther-law-says-lack-of-foreskin-acceptable-proof-of-citizenship/

Yep, they really are that twisted!

[Jefferson23]

12. Oh my God, this is truly a new low. Sane Arizona residents have my sympathy,

[rurallib]

2. And - at least in this country - it doesn't happen to women much.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Well yeah, I don't have THAT piece of equipment

[TalkingDog]

26. Interestingly... female "circumcision" would generally indicate foreign origin.

So.... this is a gender biased law.

[DJ13]

5. They need to nip this law in the bud

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. It is going to... starting woith the very clear religious test

the certificate they will accept is that of a Moel... the guy that does it under Jewish Law.

[jberryhill]

18. Yeah, so? And the US State Department does the same thing:

Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/secondary_evidence/secondary_evidence_4315.html

If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, submit a combination of early public records as evidence of your U.S. citizenship. Early public records must be submitted with a birth record or Letter of No Record. Early public records should show your name, date of birth, place of birth, and preferably be created within the first five years of your life. Examples of early public records are:

* Baptismal certificate
* Hospital birth certificate
* Census record
* Early school record
* Family bible record
* Doctor's record of post-natal care

Early Public Records are not acceptable when presented alone.


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Notice how the EXAMPLES of the types of stuff that can be used as secondary evidence includes religious records.

This is really nothing unusual - at least in terms of what kinds of things are normally used as secondary evidence.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. See bellow for my answer

since we are not even talking about the same thing.

[jberryhill]

23. I did see your comment below, and it still makes no sense

The AZ bill lists a number of things commonly used as secondary evidence of birthplace.

What is it that is odd about that?

[aquart]

8. I wonder what requirements will be for penis inspector?

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I could go on to a few sick jokes

that medic in me... but I think I will abstain.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

10. Oh, now you've gone and done it.

Don Knotts: "Nip it in the bud! You got to nip it in the bud! ... Nip it! You go read any book you want on the subject of child discipline, and you'll find that every one of 'em is in favor of bud-nippin'... Only one way to take care of it."
Andy Griffith: "Nip it."
Knotts: "In the bud."

Wave file: http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tv_sounds/sounds_files_20100522_6746301/andy_griffith/nip_it3.wav

[DJ13]

24. Thanks, I forgot about that old skit!

:hi:

[malaise]

11. Hehehehehe

Some seriously sick ReTHUGS live in Arizona.

[Terra Alta]

13. What is WITH Arizona, anyway?

First SB 1070 and now this. I feel sorry for all the liberals/progressives in AZ. I thought North and South Carolina were red state hell but I think AZ has us beat!

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. White Elites that can read the census data

and are scared shitless...

[Kceres]

14. Neither of my boys are cut.

As a matter of fact, because I am pretty good friends with most all of the moms in this neighborhood, I can attest to the fact that NONE of the boys on our block are circumcised. We are talking nine boys from six -to-eighteen years-old. This is a pretty diverse working-class neighborhood. It is simply not a given anymore.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. I know but they are the next generaiton

And also they will only take the certificate from a Moel... religious test and all. It hit it's max of close to 97% of white american kids in the 1960s.

Ever since it's been retreating. So if your kids lose their long form birth certs... better find a Moel to do this as adults!

Oy...

[jberryhill]

15. And only certain folks have baptismal certificates

These things are called secondary evidence of citizenship, and are commonly used by, e.g. the US State Department. The fact that the AZ law listed a circumcision record along with such things as a baptismal certificate is simply being inclusive of the kinds of things that normally pass for such secondary evidence.

To folks who have never encountered the subject, it probably sounds funny, but only through a combination of ignorance and lack of context.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. And those are used by STATE... for matters of citizenshi

usually when you come to the US as an immigrant, adopted or you are the kid of a US citizen and happen to come from a country where documents are sketchy at best.

[jberryhill]

22. And your point is what?

Yes, religious records are used as secondary evidence of US citizenship.

The rest of your sentence is incomprehensible, because in the context of the question of secondary evidence of US citizenship, we are not talking about people who "come to the US as an immigrant", duh.

The AZ birther bill simply appears to have copied a common list of things which are used as secondary evidence in the absence of a birth certificate. I guess I just don't see the particular humor. The bill is NOT requiring circumcision or a certificate of circumcision.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. These guys want to make it PRIMARY

[jberryhill]

28. No, you are dead wrong and it is clear you did not read the AZ bill

The AZ birther bill lists a number of things that may be considered if a birth certificate is not available.

You have no clue what you are talking about and have not read the the thing.

Here's the relevant text:

http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/hb2177s.htm&Session_ID=102

IF THE CANDIDATE DOES NOT POSSESS A LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS REQUIRED BY THIS PARAGRAPH, THE CANDIDATE MAY ATTACH TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS THAT SHALL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.....

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It is a stupid piece of legislation, but there is no need for you to lie about it.

[NoGOPZone]

20. "Here, hold on to this, in case he wants to run for President one day." nt

[DCKit]

27. Y'all might thing this is funny....

but I'd be terrorfied of the giant, hooded snake in Obama's pants too...

If I were sexually repressed.