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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:16 AM
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Dumb Plain Dealer: Really, it's OK to LIE in the Newspaper, kiddies!
Holy. Shit.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/04/opening_of_atlas_shrugged_meet.html

Yes, they devoted a good portion of their Metro section to this piece of shit movie.


The film version of Ayn Rand's epic "Atlas Shrugged" met the high expectations of those who saw it opening night Friday.

"The parallels in the book and what's happened since (President Barack) Obama came into office are startling," said Ken Zadar of Strongsville, who along with his wife and another couple saw the movie. "The government is suppressing us."

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Kim Gallagher of Kent loved the book, and the movie.

"Considering the book was written in 1957, it was good that we had to wait until 2011 to get this picture out," she said. "Government intervention in 1960 would not have been understood or recognized by people back then. What we see happening today makes this movie more relevant."

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"People are seeing reflections of what Rand wrote about," Frost said, though he cautioned that the story has more extreme examples than exist today.

"I don't believe the American people would ever let it get as far as Rand portrays," he said. "We're seeing the electorate pushing back."

The book has also had support from the political left in terms of individual rights, but is often hated for its rejection of social programs and of any responsibility of the successful to help the unsuccessful -- Rand calls for people to take responsibility for themselves and likens a government taxing someone to help another to theft.


BUT WAIT. THERE'S MORE!

Ayn Rand, the late author of "Atlas Shrugged" and another major novel called "The Fountainhead," created a philosophy she termed Objectivism.

Her philosophy called for very limited government, with nothing beyond courts, police and national defense to protect individual rights and to prevent violence and theft. The state should have no role in the economy.

Rand believed in individuals living for themselves -- taking responsibility for themselves, with no responsibility to help others, and others having no responsibility to help them. The author of "The Virtue of Selfishness," she rejected all social programs and believed that people should always act in their self-interest.

People should have the freedom to do whatever they want to make themselves happy, so long as they do not interfere with the rights of others.

Rand also believed in reason as the only legitimate way to approach the world. An atheist, she rejected faith, along with decisions driven by emotion and hopes.

-- Patrick O'Donnell


REALLY?? REALLY??

Wow. Just. Wow.

Think I'm going to start my own newsrag called The Plain LIE. I'll tell people what they want to hear, I'll make shit up, I'll lie my ass off and make millions.

Oh wait, Rupert Murdoch already has the market cornered . . .
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:19 AM
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1. well, it's also ok to lie on the floor of the senate....
Jon Kyl says abortion services are “well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does”---it's factually 3 percent

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/08/jon-kyl/jon-kyl-says-abortion-services-are-well-over-90-pe/
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:30 AM
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2. Holy shit. I felt myself slipping into an alternative universe while reading that. nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:31 AM
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4. It's really like an out-of-body experience, isn't it?
Listening to people who refuse to accept they're peasants rallying in favor of the aristocracy. And in a county (and country) that's fallen victim to unbridled capitalism, laissez-fail and job offshoring. Amazing.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:06 AM
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6. More like an out-of-mind experience, if ya ask me. (nt)
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:30 AM
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3. Dupe.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 09:30 AM by DCKit
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RevStPatrick Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:50 AM
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5. I don't understand... What in that piece is a lie?
It might be totally misguided, the book is fantasy and I'm sure the movie is too. Objectivism may be a "philosophy" that will never ever work in the real world with people, and those movie-goers may be living in la-la land...

But what in that piece is a lie?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:06 AM
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7. The "glowing" reviews.
From what I've heard, the production quality of this movie makes 70's TV shows look like classic art. And don't get me started on the stilted acting... the "Left Behind" series would sweep the Oscars if it were up to these folks.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:08 AM
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8. "Glowing reviews--"
of the sort that should be saved for Japanese reactor design?
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RevStPatrick Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:13 AM
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9. Well, sure. But there's always bound to be...
... a few misguided freakazoids like Ken Zadar of Strongsville who will love any piece of shit that reinforces their upside-down worldview. That's what that particular article was focused on. Most people will clearly understand what a piece of shit this movie is. I wouldn't get too worked up over it. The Plain Dealer probably has an advertising deal with the studio, and has to play this game to keep their rates up. Of course, it's bullshit, but it also seemed carefully worded so as not to really be a "lie."
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:42 AM
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11. The assertion that she "rejected all social programs".
Ms. "Fend fo yo DAMN self" was a Social Security and Medicare recipient, as the link above points out.

This whole "Practice what you preach" . . . and all that.
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RevStPatrick Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 02:05 PM
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13. Ah! I see now...
Yes... she was rather hypocritical there, eh?
Now I see that in the article.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:14 AM
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10. No problem with Bush trampling your rights, eh?
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 10:15 AM by Ikonoklast
"The parallels in the book and what's happened since (President Barack) Obama came into office are startling," said Ken Zadar of Strongsville, who along with his wife and another couple saw the movie. "The government is suppressing us."



No, Strongsville white bread, that Black Guy pisses you off.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:45 AM
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12. Oh God - Strongsville, completely missed that one.
The McClown Capital of Ohio.

See, I'd be more willing to listen to so-called "libertarians" if

a) they didn't spend 90% of their time ripping on ONE party while mostly giving the truly damaging one a pass and
b) their luuuuurrrrrvves for all things Reaganomic and poor-hatin'.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 02:30 PM
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14. K & R. n/t
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