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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:42 AM
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Not Intended to be a Factual Reality
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 11:55 AM by drokhole
So, I came across this article titled Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush that was in the New York Times Magazine back in 2004 (a great read written by Ron Suskind - http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html). I know this may be old news to some, but I hadn't read it before - and, though it was all a horrible reminder of the Bush years, I found one excerpt particularly shocking:


"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued.''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''



It's not so much that I'm shocked that this is how those evil assholes operate, just that this person delineated it so clearly and without a hint of remorse or hesitation. The reason I point it out is that absolutely nothing has changed, yet they're still, by and large, allowed to get away with their own manufactured reality.

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MacNfries Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:46 AM
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1. Too bad that isn't on tape somehow ... but we've all suspected it for decades now.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:51 AM
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2. It explains the teabaggers and Faux News too.
Nice find.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:56 AM
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3. OK, I get that, but can't wrap my mind around it.
"Magical Thinking" was never my thing - else I'd have my own private pegasus and the powers of Superman. And a really huge penis.

Jeebus, WTF are these freaks snorting?
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:40 PM
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5. Think it was termed "drunk with power" back in the day. n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 02:00 PM
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4. Yeah, we're still studying what happened in Nazi Germany, not much uplifting
revelations there either.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:57 PM
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6. When "Our Reality" comes...these fuckers will shit their pants and run !
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