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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:18 PM
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Bloomberg article say Kloppenburg is entitled to a free statewide recount.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-16/prosser-declares-win-in-wisconsin-race-with-recount-possible.html
Under Wisconsin law, candidates must pay the costs of a recount if the margin exceeds one-half of 1 percent of the vote, according to the Government Accountability Board. The final margin in the April 5 race was 0.488 percent, Haas said.


The math seems to be right. 7,316 is 0.4881% of 1,498,880. So there doesn't seem to be anything stopping Kloppenburg from asking for a recount.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:25 PM
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1. As I understand it it's just another machine count.
Not a hand recount of the ballots.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:26 PM
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2. A hand count can be requested.
The director of GAB indicated that he expects a hand count.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:31 PM
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7. My understanding is that a hand count requires a court order. n/t
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:32 PM
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8. Yes, candidate needs to justify its necessity.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 12:34 PM by PeaceNikki
But as has been mentioned many times, she is represented by Franken's attorney and, also as I said, GAB indicated they expect this.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:36 PM
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9. Personally, I think it's a tossup as to what the results will be.
The difference is less than half a percent, so it strikes me that a recount, especially a hand recount, could push it either way. That's assuming there wasn't some major fraud.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:47 PM
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10. There's no way given the awesome incompetence and probable past frauds in
just one county that a hand recount won't show other irregularities and possibly frauds.

Consider Republican SOP since 2000 (when demographics meant it passed forever into a minority party nationally, but election fraud followed by judicial coup reaped enormous rewards). Consider the contempt for law and radical leanings of the current crop of new Tea Party politicians, who want to use their chance to enact a social revolution. They've already trampled on the law in WI and they project "thuggery" and alien values on to their designated enemies, justifying any shenanigans they undertake as self-defense. The money that backs them doesn't give a shit about fair play, they're engaged in full-spectrum class war.

So the odds are excellent that more than one fraud is out there to be discovered.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:00 AM
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15. I hope Attorney BJ Van Hollen agrees...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:28 PM
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:29 PM
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5. Yes, in a nutshell - it is up to her and her attorneys and you will have to deal with it.
C'est la Vie
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:56 PM
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:28 PM
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4. Repubthugs are never strong in math or facts. It's to our advantage when justice is applied.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 12:48 PM
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11. It will not be free.
The actual state cost is trivial. The legal costs would easily be a million dollars or more. That has to be paid by the candidate not the state.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:06 PM
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13. What legal costs? She is entitled to a free statewide recount.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:19 PM
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14. The candidates are represented by attorney during recount. The costs with state for recount are free
but candidate still pays a great deal for their legal representation during the process.
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