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Sat Apr-16-11 08:42 PM
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yahoo users liked atlas shrugged, however reading the comments I suspect |
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This is a group with a particular philosophy
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Sat Apr-16-11 08:44 PM
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1. I heard the audience shrugged. |
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Sat Apr-16-11 11:14 PM
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Another good one I heard is that the market will decide if the next two parts will ever make it to film.
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Sat Apr-16-11 08:46 PM
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2. Yahoo has a lot of paid posters. Also you can sign up multiple |
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screen names. Yahoo comment section is a big joke.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:29 PM
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6. that was my feeling, some of these have to be paid or are part of a political |
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Sat Apr-16-11 08:50 PM
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3. yahoo users are yahoos...... |
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Sat Apr-16-11 08:52 PM
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4. It's Yahoo. What do you expect? |
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Much like AOL in the late 90s.. Yahoo is infested with morons.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:31 PM
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:27 PM
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5. This is one of the biggest propaganda campaigns mounted |
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Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 10:21 PM by ooglymoogly
by the uber right I have ever seen, if not the, certainly one of the biggest.
Atlas shrugged is its flagship. So you can count on huge AstroTurf support. The colorblind, simpleton, Ayn Rand, could only see complicated issues in black and white, but in delusion gives legitimacy to their greed and theft.
For those interested; go to You Tube and see the preening self aggrandizement surrounding this hyped up hot air balloon so overly festooned it cannot fly. Atlas Shrugged is placed in a propaganda video high on a shelf with War and Peace, and Gone with the wind, and spoken of in the loftiest tones, as if it is the word of the gods; as if it is great literature.
Rands books appear to be written for delusional children by a dangerously delusional child. The repetition of a thing that could be said in few words and in one sentence, is said add infinitum by a very unimaginative mind. It is hard for me now to believe I ever got through every one of her books by the age of 15 as required reading, before realizing, even then, that such a simplistic philosophy could only end in fascism.
Now comes a "big" full color self aggrandizing extravaganza; whose wall is that Ayn Rand only saw things in black and white, who's mind was not even slightly extravagant in its capabilities.
These delusional folks want to be thought of and worshiped as gods.....and it is how less than one percent of the population makes the other 99 percent do the oligarchs bidding even against their own interest.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:33 PM
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:31 PM
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8. what does the title - Atlas Shrugged - mean, anyway?? i never figured it out. |
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(not that i really tried... i've never read the darn thing.)
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:42 PM
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The producers/inventors/folks that keep the world spinning are represented by the mythical character of Atlas who was tasked to hold the world on his shoulders. In the book those same people stop producing/inventing/keeping the world spinning and let the world burn and in turn is represented by Atlas shrugging off his burden and letting the world crash.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:43 PM
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12. Atlas was the guy who carried the world on his shoulders. |
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Rand used him to symbolize the burden of the 'stars' of society who are responsible for creating stuff. When those 'stars' got fed up with not being appreciated enough, they just up and quit, leaving society 'leaderless' to flounder. Like Atlas shrugging.
They, of course, went off together and formed their own enclave where there were no peons to interfere with their superior lives.
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Sat Apr-16-11 10:51 PM
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18. Kinda like what's happening now |
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with many of the big corps refusing to expand into new businesses and create new product...of course there are all kinds of financial products to keep them busy ignoring the workers.
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Sat Apr-16-11 11:11 PM
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20. Yeah and you know what happes a few weeks later? |
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The world keeps turning and in fact is better off with those greedy assholes rotting in some desert.
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Sun Apr-17-11 08:42 AM
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26. She doesn't even consider the possibility |
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that there is any intelligence among the workers at all. As soon as the owner is not in charge the factory fails. That must come from her background in Russia.
Certainly one of the falsehoods in her argument.
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Sun Apr-17-11 09:12 AM
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28. "The cemetaries of the world are filled with indespensable men." |
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- Charles De Galle.
The smartest, wealthiest, most able, the bravest generals, most far-seeing philosophers are all replaced on a daily basis; if the greediest of the world would all go away and leave the rest of us alone, we could achieve real peace and true prosperity in one generation.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:43 PM
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13. My guess (never read it myself) is that her heroes are supposed to be Atlas, |
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carrying the world on their shoulders, but when the world fails to appreciate them they shrug it off and let all the ungrateful wretches go tumbling down...
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:45 PM
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14. A better title for a more accurate book would be "Atlas Dropped the Ball". nt |
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:45 PM
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15. Think of the school yard bully taking his ball and going home. |
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Or someone having all the marbles; putting a sign on his gate saying screw you, to everyone else left in poverty by his greed.
Of course Rand believes this is a lofty virtue; and calls the theft creative genius, having absolutely no clue what genius really is and in delusion thinking she herself is one.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:48 PM
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16. Except it's not even his ball. |
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Atlas doesn't own the fucking world any more than these tycoons own the oil or coal under the ground or the air and water their fellow man must breathe and drink.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:54 PM
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17. Ah but that is the batshit in Rands bucket of ointment. |
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Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 10:06 PM by ooglymoogly
By the laws they have written, indemnifying themselves from the theft, they do own it....till there is a strong enough backlash to bring truth and sanity back into the equation.
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Sat Apr-16-11 09:31 PM
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9. I suspect one had to be already subscribed to that particular philosophy |
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before choosing to see that particular movie with the bad reviews it's gotten, during the first couple days of its release
Either that, or perhaps was dragged to the movie by someone who was already subscribed to Ayn Randianism
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Sat Apr-16-11 10:56 PM
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19. The joke is that these people think they are the "producers". |
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Sun Apr-17-11 12:12 AM
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25. Yes. They are the Proletariat but think they are Capital. |
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It is sad, an epidemic in America, especially in the TeaBagger "movement."
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Sat Apr-16-11 11:12 PM
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21. No doubt there are people paid to go to all the websites that list the movie and give it a good |
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Sun Apr-17-11 12:02 AM
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23. Ayn Rand collected Social Security and medicare. |
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She was a moocher. And her books were nothing but fairy tales for emotionally stunted people. How would those steel factories and trains get made, if not for the worker? I believe in balance and respect for the designers who dream great thoughts and the workers that make them a reality. Too bad the Randian's can only see out of their right eye.
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Sun Apr-17-11 12:04 AM
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24. Holy shit. You went into yahoo comments? |
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Hope you had your waders on.
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Sun Apr-17-11 08:44 AM
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27. If you look at the comments about any article on yahoo |
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you'll see the Rwers overwhelmingly dominate the comments. It's the new AOL for idjits.
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Sun Apr-17-11 10:11 AM
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29. Yahoo's comment section is often a teabagger cesspool |
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Pretty vile stuff posted there.
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