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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:08 AM
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I have a friend who is a republican school teacher in Florida
Had an interesting discussion tonight. She was talking about the evils of privatization...but no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get her to accept the parallel of republican policy=privatization.

BUT she does hate their Governor and said most of her colleagues do as well. Hopefully part of them can hang on until the next election.:(
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:53 AM
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1. Unfortunately many Democrats favor privatization as well
This is truly a bi-partisan attempt to destroy our public schools.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:34 AM
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10. +1
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:30 AM
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14. The average Republican..
Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 10:30 AM by Davis_X_Machina
...and too many Democrats, are counting on the fact that in a flood the tall guys don't drown -- and even if they do drown, they drown rich, having gone through the pockets of all the other victims first.

It's better to drown rich, than to live poor, apparently.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 12:54 AM
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2. Yet another example
of people who are persuaded to vote against their own self interest.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:42 AM
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3. God bless you for talking to a Florida Roopublicon teacher. I
no longer can. I have tried to talk to them, before the election when they were pro-GOP & Scott, and after the election, now that they are pro-GOP & anti-Scott. They have this mindset that the GOP is good, Scott is the villain. It is all him. I don't know how to dislodge them from this thinking.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:56 AM
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4. she may claim to hate the governor, but too many republicans see that "R"
Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 01:57 AM by SoCalDem
and vote the bastards in anyway..
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:13 AM
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7. Oh yeah, the magic R. I've seen working class people shoot their
self in the foot voting for magic R, while rich people laugh their asses off. I've seen retired people on social security and medicare voting for the magic R. IGNORANT BASTARDS!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 02:17 AM
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5. Our esteemed Repub Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels....
Edited on Sun Apr-17-11 02:27 AM by Contrary1
campaigned on lower property taxes, and delivered.

The schools are hurting. My son is a teacher in a lower income area. If the referendums in his township fail to pass, there will be no more gym, art, or music classes. Every assistant principal will be pink-slipped. One of the two high schools will be closed. Class size will be increased (My son's class already has 33 students - 20 of which are Learning English students.)

Where we live, it is even more serious. If the referendum here fails, 3 elementary and 1 intermediate schools will close. There will be no art, music, or gym classes. More than 130 people will lose their jobs, and bus service will be discontinued.

Property values will plummet. Who in their right mind would move into a school district that had no bus service? Problem is, the administration buckled last time the measures did not pass. Idiots out here believe that the school system is once again crying wolf.

If; by miracle, it should pass, property taxes will still be lower than they were five years ago.

I live within a half mile of the high school, middle school, and one of the elementary schools. Traffic will be a nightmare.

I just don't get the stupidity.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:21 AM
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8. Our son teaches in Indiana too.
He was RIF last year from BC, but managed to get hired on at another HS in the state. They had to move and buy another house and he is on pins and needles hoping he doesn't get another RIF at the end of this school year. He is getting wonderful reviews and the new school loves him, but with Mitch in office, who knows what will happen!
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:28 AM
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13. Who in their right mind would move into a school district that had no bus service?
People without kids.
Towns love them. They try to encourage them in all sorts of ways. Look at new development proposals. Far from the cornfields full of cul-de-sacs of twenty years ago, you're more likely to find projects whose design screams "DINK".

They pay the same mill rare as everyone else, and take less back out in services.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 05:54 AM
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6. SoCal Dem nailed it.
this state has been killing education for a long time. First by removing property taxes from the public school education budget, substituting lottery funds, then siphoning those funds off while demonizing the teachers. Meanwhile under jeb * plans, charter and private schools are taking more and more tax dollars and funnelling them into vouchers.

I believe that when the stuff hits the fan, many charter schools will fold leaving the kids, teachers and parents holding an empty bag and the buildings,equipment and SUVs will become the assests of the founders.

As for your friend. The next three years are going to kill this state for the common man, maybe she can move to someplace education is valued, like Haiti.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:26 AM
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9. In all honesty, if she's a *REPUBLICAN* school teacher, I'd just as soon she stay right there.
She helped create the problem; let her help correct
the problem (rather than escaping to some other place
that she'll then want to re-make in her Republican
image).

Tesha
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:36 AM
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11. A little variation. Husband of a retired NJ public school teacher
has no problem with Christie advocating for active teachers either paying for their health benefits b/c his wife is retired and believes nothing can happen to their benefits.

I got mine. Screw you.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 07:13 AM
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12. It's all going to back fire on them.
Public employs are not allowed to strike.

Would be great to see the NEA organize all of the "private school" teachers and go on strike for everything teachers have dreamed of..


Then hit the prison guards with a big union too.

Unintended consequences rule the world.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 10:39 AM
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15. Does your friend agree with the education cuts Republicans are proposing and passing?
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