A Tale of Two Babies by Sarah Palin. (MUCH more info and some pretty hard to ignore proof about the

[Snoutport]

baby/babies. This website has been following this story since the elections, it is not a new story to them and they have a lot of proof to back up what they are saying.... me thinketh Sara Palin might be a truth fabricator.

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2010/02/tale-of-two-babies-by-sarah-palin.html

[SpiralHawk]

1. "Smirk." - Sarah Pale Horse (R)

[Lisa0825]

2. Direct link to the post...

Your link took me to the blog, but the post is linked here:

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2010/02/tale-of-two-babies-by-sarah-palin.html

Very interesting.

[Snoutport]

3. good catch...i fixed it :0)

[Gregorian]

4. Is it irresponsible that I can't give 3 Calories to this woman/creature?

Every time I see her name I turn away in disgust. Is that too Barbara Bush of me to protect my "beautiful" mind?

God, what has this country become...

[mainer]

5. Can someone explain the exact sequence of possible events?

There are too many babies in this scenario. I can't keep them straight. Nor can I keep straight who was supposed to be pregnant when, and who gave birth when.

[Webster Green]

6. Need a flow chart.

I have the same problem. :crazy:

[Snoutport]

36. that would totally help!

[SoCalDem]

42. I did one ages ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=4592251#4592529

[jimlup]

8. Agreed and it is hard to even speculate as to "why"

Without such a detailed time line. Two possibilities come to mind but neither of them make complete sense. One would be that it was a simple political stunt to thumb the nose at abortionists. The other is that it was intended to cover up a teenage pregnancy of one of Sarah's daughter. Neither makes complete sense and both scenarios raise more questions than they would answer.

[Snoutport]

18. why? to cover for somebody...they went with it and suddenly she was big news

they were kinda trapped. the daughter of the governor was preggie and that wasn't up to her tea party values? so they covered it up.

[WatsonT]

7. If this were true that would mean she could no longer be vice president

since she won and this is still totally relevant.

[Book Lover]

47. Thank you!!! (nm)

[QED]

9. I didn't know about the ear thing...

The sequence of events and her activities on the day Trig was born are very "interesting" indeed. Of course, the half-guv could clear this up if she just showed us the birth certificate.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. The ear thing is pretty convincing, IMO

I had not heard about that either.

[truebrit71]

30. Yup..kind of seals the deal for me...

...I already suspected she'd been lying her ass off anyway..

[Snoutport]

37. that did it for me too...but then i saw the pictures lightened and it is SO

obvious that she was not pregnant.

[Snoutport]

46. exactly. a lot of this was new to me too. and still pertinent since she is a national figure

[Old and In the Way]

10. That was posted in February of 2010...doesn't seem to be getting much traction, though.

The blogger seemed to do his/her homework, though. Baby#1 with the deformed ears is not the baby#2 that was lugged around on stage at the RNC convention. Seems like a a major development in a pretty weird story that never seemed to make much sense to me.

I wonder why the Enquirer didn't jump on this? Seemed like a guaranteed goldmine to break this story.

[pintobean]

11. This kind of shit makes us look bad

None of this will ever be proven. I can't imagine any reason it could end up in court or why there would be a real investigation. So, what's the point? It just makes us look crazy.

[leftstreet]

17. +1

I have to agree - even if it's true.

The whole thing is pretty muddy, and most people don't even realize she had a baby.

Can't help but think it's getting traction from the rightwing and they're hoping to take her out and/or make the Dems look as nutz as the birthers.

[Snoutport]

38. Letting her lie and become a national figure without calling her on her lies is also crazy

If not on a national level, the people of AK certainly have the right to ask for truth from someone who appointed a good portion of the state's upper level and whose hand-picked minion is still governor.

[Obamanaut]

12. This Palin baby thing is a big thing for many people isn't it. nt

[MineralMan]

13. Enough about Sarah Palin. Thanks.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. If this story about the baby pans out we will never have to worry about her again

I hear you. I am sick to death of her and her fan club. But then I read these links and damn! She could be gone for good if this all turns out to be true.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. who is worried about her? She is a poison pill for the (R)s

[Snoutport]

34. Her AK appointees are still doing her business in AK... Miller was almost elected

Palin is still dangerous...her tentacles are deep in the Alaska system and this story could finally show her to be a total charlatain. reason enough for it to be looked into.

[canetoad]

20. Whut? WHUT?

You giving directives?

[pintobean]

24. Nothing new

:hi:

[Snoutport]

40. yeah, have you noticed all the people DEMANDING that we leave this alone?

What is with that? She might be running for president on a family values platform and this topic should be off limits? That makes no sense to me!

[pipi_k]

52. OK, a question...

do you honestly believe that her ardent supporters are going to be put off their vote by a conspiracy theory being spread by Democrats?

Seriously???


that will only make them dig in all the harder.

Just like the birther crap being spread by Repubs/Teabaggers isn't going to suddenly cause ardent Obama supporters to change their minds.


It's all nothing but really bad political theater. I've seen better plot lines in Grade B "Sci-Fi" movies from the 1950s and 60s.

[Snoutport]

29. So only PRO +++ Media coverage on the airways and no discussion of her character online

Wow...exactly what she was hoping! If nobody stoops to her level then she gets to keep on doing what she is doing. I personally am OK with people discussing character flaws in politicians who use their "family values" to beat the rest of us into silence and submission.

The only way these people get torn down is when the public or the media holds up their behavior to the light.

[MineralMan]

31. Palin is not really the issue any longer, and this kind of

conspiracy theory business being discussed on DU won't affect anything at all. It's a distraction from real issues, in my opinion. This post, and the other one, are just that - my opinion. You can do anything you want. I will express my opinion about it.

See my signature line.

[Snoutport]

33. you're good,man

I'm enjoying the conversation--

[Blue_In_AK]

16. Jesse's been on this for a long time

and he has lots of sources. I'm still on the fence. Either way -- whether Sarah didn't give birth to Trig at all or whether she raced back to Alaska from Texas after her water broke -- with a layover in Seattle -- bypassing Anchorage's state-of-the-art NICU for her little regional hospital in Wasilla another hour away -- either way, her mothering skills leave a lot to be desired.

In a lot of ways, I think her own account of this event is worse. I think she was trying to abort the little guy.

[Ramulux]

19. What?

I was unaware of that whole thing with the ear. It seems to be undeniable evidence that she paraded around a different kid than her current one. There has to be some sort of catch to this story because if its true it is really weird and kind of fucked up.

[Snoutport]

35. EXACTLY...totally twisted. If true it shows she is a whacko...but this time on paper and this time

she's been lying to her supporters. THEY need to see she is lying or she doesn't lose her base.

[Ramulux]

43. There has to be more to this

It seems way too obvious. Maybe there was photoshop involved or something else but I just cant bring myself to believe it.

I want to just disregard this whole situation as a conspiracy but I cant come up with any even semi-reasonable explanation for that whole ear thing.

[Quantess]

21. Trig doesn't have a real birth certificate.

[canetoad]

22. I suffer from extremely mild internet voyeurism

And the net is THE place to be mildly voyeuristic; people watching with a capital Pee.

Snoutport, the story will come out in the end. I don't believe Trig is SPs child but hazard no guesses to his real parentage. New information is needed; the available pictures have been done to death. The actions and motives have been combed through with no real advance in knowledge for two years.

What's missing is the DNA test. We need DNA. We need Sarah's, Tawd's, Trig's DNA. Then we need to set up a website and gather donations to get it tested. Then we can release this to the press and become billionaires.

Can't work out why no-one's done it already.

[Snoutport]

48. Yeah...somebody is going to sneak off with the kid's DNA I figure

though I don't think that is cool it will probably happen.

[HughBeaumont]

23. K & R.

That'd probably answer the doubters who bring up the length between Trig's and Tripp's birthdates also. The ear thing's kind of hard to ignore.

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. The ear thing sold me too

I know a baby who had that and everything this blogger says about the medical treatment is exactly what the baby I know experienced.

[HipChick]

27. I've been following the 'Ruffles' story from the start...another link

My neighbor's baby had this too..the operation to fix is not usually done till the baby is a little older..


pics and timeline are interesting

http://www.palinpeytonplace.com/2-babies-yes-heres-proof.html

http://www.palinpeytonplace.com/2-babies-1-surgical-repair---presented-by-sarah-palin.html

[pipi_k]

28. Sarah Palin....a truth fabricator?

For real?

OMG the HORROR!!!

If this story is true (which I doubt and frankly don't give two shits about) then that would make her like, the only!!!! person in politics who ever lied!!!

And, of all the nerve, about something in her PRIVATE life!!! How DARE she!!!???


OK, so it's not enough she's practically political dead meat already. Seems like lots of time and energy are being wasted that would be better spent elsewhere.

Like uncovering lies told by Democrats (which make us look bad) or uncovering lies told by Republican candidates who actually have a chance.

I guess there's not enough real tragedy in the world. People have to run around making up political soap operas...

:eyes:

[Snoutport]

32. Really? If she would lie about a pregnancy what else would she be willing to lie about?

Read what this OB GYN says about it. It takes it from the "national enquirer" type of thing to a more scientific one: http://www.palinpeytonplace.com/ob-gyn-shocked.html

But most importantly, this woman is still a big force in politics if not nationally, she still is in Alaska. Her appointees are still running the place. These articles are coming mostly from people in Alaska who have a BIG stake in whether or not Sara Palin is honest with them or not.

Honesty of a politician is important. Many people in Alaska are sharing very convincing information with us. Palin is a woman who uses family values to beat the opposition with. Her daughter made more than half a million dollars talking about teen chastity after having one, if not two children.

I'm sorry if it bothers you that some of us think that one of the most powerful people in US politics is lying. We're sorry that we don't trust her when she says she was allowed on two planes for ten hours of flight AFTER she said her water broke. Luckily none of the airline workers noticed because otherwise she would not have been allowed on the plane.

And, yes, Sara Palin's hold on the country is slipping. But it is slipping because people like these Alaska bloggers are holding her lies and ugly words up into the light for everyone to look at.

If this stuff comes to light it would demoralize the Right Wing. Sara Palin would have been lying to THEM. Yes, it is a personal thing but she has been lying to her base about it (if it is true). That is not a bad thing.

[pipi_k]

49. Like I said...

she would be the very first politician in history to lie about something, right?

Did you support Bill Clinton when he was in office?

When we found out he lied about his affair with Monica, did you write him off as a complete liar?

When he got caught lying about that affair, did you look back and decide that his two terms were nothing but bullshit, even though the economy was humming along pretty well then? At least, better than now...

Jimmy Carter...probably one of the most honest politicians...how did that go?

Here...link to a list of the presidents and their rankings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

I'm looking at the aggregate rankings for Clinton and Carter.

Clinton....liar...aggregate ranking: 20

Carter....not a liar, as far as we know...aggregate ranking: 27


Lying about one's personal life has little to do with how that person may or may not perform his or her job.

[Thegonagle]

39. And none of this matters. At all. Leave the kids alone.

[pipi_k]

50. No shit. Because at some point, Trigg will grow up and

be exposed to this trash and then have to deal with the fallout.

Even if he does have Downs.


All this bullshit trying to trap Palin in a lie is going to hurt the kid in the end.

This is no better than divorcing parents who hate each other so much they don't give a flying fuck about how they treat each other affects their kids.

Shameful and disgusting.

[reformist2]

41. Yep. But there are some loose ends to tie up re: Bristol's pregnancy.

I think the pictures of Bristol that year show a woman who isn't pregnant, but a mother who aleady gave birth!

[Xithras]

44. Or...she had them corrected.

My son had plastic surgery at 4 months old to correct a couple of minor birth defects. It happens.

Occams Razor. Which is more probable...that she had a kid with a visual blemish and had it corrected, or that the entire pregnancy was faked and that the kid isn't really hers? The first option is by FAR the more likely of the two.

[Jello Biafra]

45. If it's Sarah's baby (which I think it isn't)....

She has the pelvic muscles of a viking....

[mwb970]

51. This pretty much clinches it for me.

I was pretty sure it was a hoax before, but this site has SO MUCH INFO that it is just absurd to claim that nothing underhanded went on here. The "ear" thing alone was enough to convince me. And there's SO MUCH MORE!

Let's stay on this one, people, and ride it all the way home!

[pipi_k]

53. HAH!!! OMG I just looked at that stupid blog...

OK, so the idiot who wrote it chooses to block out the face of the young girl holding the baby because she's a minor, but the baby, who is waaaayyy younger than the girl is, and also a MINOR, doesn't get the same courtesy?

And the replies...there sure are a lot of them by the well-known personality named "Anonymous"! hahahahaha

What a piece of trash!

The Left's version of FR....

:rofl: