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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:52 PM
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Top surgeon forced to resign over semen
A top surgeon has been forced to quit his post over comments he wrote about semen and its effect on the health, happiness and well-being of women.

Dr. Lazar Greenfield resigned from his position as the president-elect of the American College of Surgeons following a Valentine’s day editorial he wrote citing research which found that women who had unprotected sex were less depressed than women who used condoms, arguing semen was the factor which made the difference.

In the article he explained that research has found mood enhancers like estrone, cortisol, prolactin, oxytocin, serotonin, and melatonin are presence in semen – all of which can be attributed to combating depression.

The editorial said, “Female college students having unprotected sex were significantly less depressed than were those whose partners used condoms (Arch. Sex. Behav. 2002;31:289-93). Their better moods were not just a feature of promiscuity, because women using condoms were just as depressed as those practicing total abstinence. The benefits of semen contact also were seen in fewer suicide attempts and better performance on cognition tests. So there's a deeper bond between men and women than St. Valentine would have suspected, and now we know there's a better gift for that day than chocolates.”

http://rt.com/usa/news/surgeon-resignation-semen-controversy/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:55 PM
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1. Now, that's what I call a sticky situation. n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:00 PM
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Awww... don't you think that reaction is a bit premature?
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:10 PM
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10. Yeah, what a load.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:27 PM
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15. Oh, come now, no need to get testy!
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:55 PM
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21. It's hard to plant a seed of doubt in my mind, no matter how much you try to thrust it in!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:09 PM
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23. I don't know, it sounds like some cock-and-bull story to me.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:15 PM
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26. Have these puns reached their climax yet?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:17 PM
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28. It's an unusually fertile subject
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:16 PM
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27. I've pretty much shot my wad on this thread
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:59 PM
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2. See, I tell people this on the street and they look at me like I'm crazy.
And that's the Greatest Tragedy of it all...

It's like being that guy in that one movie. At the end. It just tears me up.

PB
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:29 PM
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16. and how do they look at you when you raise other
topics?

:)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:42 PM
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20. I usually engage strangers through the magic of avant-garde guerilla puppetry so...
...their responses are technically to Mrs. Pennywhistle, whose business is none of mine.

PB
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:14 PM
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24. Love it. absolutely love it.
Now, what sort of dresses does Mrs. Pennywhistle wear? Minis? Midis? Maxis? or Sarah Palin styled clingy leather pantsuits?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:00 PM
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3. On the downside, pregnant college women, and those with STDs from unprotected sex . . .
were found to be immensely depressed, significantly more so than their celibate sisters. Further research also indicates those women who engaged in unprotected sex were actually more relieved each month than they were happy.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:12 PM
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11. +1000
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:58 PM
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22. LOL
right on
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:00 PM
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4. My semen spreads happiness and sunshine wherever it goes. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:34 PM
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18. ...
:)
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:01 PM
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5. You know there is a lot of shit I believe to be true, that I won't say out loud...
Semen!
It's the new vitamin B+!

Some people, I swear.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:04 PM
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8. Ozzy has been hounding me- I thought it was just something with Sharon!
That scamp!

PB
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Evolve_Already Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:02 PM
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6. What a puke!
Think you are a God much Mr. Physician?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:09 PM
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9. LOL-- someone has a rather obvious ax to grind....
:rofl:
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Evolve_Already Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:38 PM
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19. LOL--care to put your wiener on the block....
:rofl:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:03 PM
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7. Whut?
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:13 PM
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12. oh well
Easy come, easy go :hide:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:17 PM
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13. Hey, not only that, if a woman swallows when giving oral sex...
Edited on Mon Apr-18-11 05:18 PM by originalpckelly
she is less likely to develop pre-eclampsia whilst being pregnant.

Although, it's not just swallowing, it's also unprotected sex. And really, if you're going to have a child with someone, you should probably be at that stage in your relationship to have unprotected sex for a while.

You never know when they'll sleep around on you, but it is a confidence builder.


In other news when a gay man swallows during oral sex, he will never eat a raw egg again, and will eventually understand that asparagus is an evil spear sent by satan himself, to ruin head giving.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:17 PM
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14. So, that's where happiness comes from. n/t
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:20 PM
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29. One obvious problem with the "study"
The subjects were self-selected. Potentially the women having the unprotected sex may have been having it because they were in long-term relationships and somewhat happy. The women using condoms may not have been in relationships. I'd also question the entire role of semen without a breakdown beyond condoms used/not used...did the "protected" ones never perform oral sex without a condom?
So many things seem really wrong about this.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:30 PM
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17. Joking aside, IF this is based on peer reviewed research
he should not have resigned

If it is not then he needs to be hauled over the coals, not just "forced to resign"
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:14 PM
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25. Sounds like something stupid he did on the sperm of the moment.
Archie Bunkerism.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:43 PM
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30. Occam's Razor, anyone?
Assuming for a moment that his basic correlation is correct--that women having unprotected sex are happier than those having protected sex--he still hasn't proven causation, specifically that the sex itself is responsible for the difference in happiness. College age women having unprotected sex are most likely doing so with a committed boyfriend, whereas protected sex is usually found in either non-relationship or uncommitted partners. And you don't have to be a scientist to know that someone who has a healthy long-term relationship is often happier and less stressed than people who don't.

No, I'm not insulting single people here. I am one. But I'd be lying if I said that humans don't have an innate attraction to relationships, and that relationships usually make people happy.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 07:57 PM
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31. . . .
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