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Ed Suspicious Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:07 PM
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The fascists in the Reichwing who
are always trumpeting the efficiencies of privatization... Why is it methods from the outside are always more efficient? Is it that they think themselves inefficient? Incompetent? Impotent? What is it about profit motive that in their mind equals efficiency? I contend we need no profit motive to be efficient, we only need smart, organized people who care about their jobs and the people and systems they work for.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:09 PM
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1. They don't believe a word of what they spew
They talk about things like "efficiencies" simply to trick the rest of us into going along with their ideas.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:13 PM
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2. They also talk about "choices" and "flexibility".
When you hear those terms, run.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:16 PM
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3. And "competetive" too n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:21 AM
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9. If 'they' say it, it is a lie.
Srsly.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:29 PM
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4. I think private enterprise is vastly more efficient than government-run industries
No question.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:30 PM
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5. Different mandates....
One is created in order to make a profit for investors the other is created to provide a collective service...
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:32 PM
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6. Being on the govenrment side of things, I couldn't disagree more strongly.
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 05:33 PM by arbusto_baboso
FWIW, in the 20+ years of givernment service I have, both in the Army and as a civilian employee of county government, I can say conclusively that EVERY SINGLE PROJECT that I have witnessed contracted out to private industry for "cost savings" has been a complete clusterfuck. Either the contractor has outright lied and claimed outrageous "overruns" which they knew about when they put in their bid, or they delivered a clearly inferior product and paid their workers peanuts.

Give me a single instance where privatization has actually produced the "benefits" touted. Just one.

I won't be holding my breath.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:23 AM
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11. You are a victim of
misinformation. And 'vastly'? You are really really misinformed.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:33 PM
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7. Privatization is an efficient way for them to take everything we have
That's what they really mean (but don't say).

Why do stupid 'Murkins believe it?

That's what I want to know.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:23 AM
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10. Yes. Yes it is. Murkiins believe it because CorpoMedia© tells them
that it's true.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 07:49 PM
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8. The situations in which privatization results in savings,
that's because they hire fewer workers, pay them less, slash benefits, and so on.

And think of all the private businesses that have gone belly-up. Oh! Oh! Oh! How about those Wall Street investment banks? Yeah, they're real efficient, aren't they?
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