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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:44 AM
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Marijuana dangers
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 12:44 AM by Very_Boring_Name
http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

* Impaired perception
* Diminished short-term memory
* Loss of concentration and coordination
* Impaired judgement
* Increased risk of accidents
* Loss of motivation
* Diminished inhibitions
* Increased heart rate
* Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia
* Hallucinations
* Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems
* Increased risk of cancer
* Psychological dependency
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:48 AM
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1. Even if that was true it would be worth it.
:smoke:

--imm
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:29 AM
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46. +1 and lol
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:06 AM
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88. Lol!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:16 AM
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95. lol
good one
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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:03 PM
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119. Hmmm. Sounds like
the results of the NCLB pogrom.
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:51 AM
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2. I'm a beliver that it can't really be 'good' for you to smoke this stuff..
But I also believe it is no worse than cigarettes and alcohol (perhaps even less damaging) and that it should be decriminalized.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:58 AM
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11. Bullshit!
Everyone knows it makes chemotherapy easier. That's a good thing (at least it is if you happen to be the one doing the chemo).

There's many more reasons (both medicinally & recreational that makes it good to smoke.

It's now been showed to have anti-cancer properties. Cool ain't it?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:09 AM
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21. It didn't make chemo easier for me.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:16 AM
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27. Well, it did for me and thousands of others.
Are you denying the benefits exist because they didn't express in your case?

This particular medicinal value is perhaps the easiest to quantify.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:26 AM
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30. You know...when I was doing chemotherapy...
My Oncologists at the clinic would clue in other patients who were also waiting for their injections, to follow me out onto the fire escape, because they knew I was out there tuning up for my chemo.

With no pot, I needed a puke bucket for the ride home. With pot, I stopped for a cheezburger on the way home. That is the absolute truth, and it was in 1978. The horse has been out of the barn for quite some time. I can't believe I'm reading the garbage in the OP in 2011. :eyes:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:46 AM
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49. It did for me and I wish it had for you. There is solid scientific evidence that pot not only
diminishes nausea but enhances appetite.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:45 AM
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105. Helped my mother immensely with hers.
Helps me a lot to, though not because of my cancer. It helps with the bipolar crap better than all the meds they've fed me over the years combined.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:50 PM
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124. I'm glad.
:pals:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:54 PM
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125. Speak for yourself, it helped me through it twice...
Did chemo 2 times with breast cancer (just rad w/thyroid cancer). Cannabis made it so that I could eat enough to have enough strength to sit under a giant umbrella and watch our kids' soccer games. Otherwise I would have missed most of them those seasons and kids don't stop growing when life throws you curve balls.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:37 PM
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140. I did speak for myself.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:56 PM
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136. It made chemo easier for a former employer of mine...
And for a friend going through it right now... and it helped two friends who were dying of AIDS related diseases... and it helps another friend with a neurological problem sleep.

I truly believe you are the exception... and I wish you weren't! How sad you had to go through that without the sweet leaf relief.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:25 AM
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86. you don't have to smoke it
there are other ways of getting it into your system.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:52 AM
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3. And still less dangerous than aspirin.
You funny.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:35 AM
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117. Benefits:
"Here is the known list of positive effects of marijuana:

* Appetite stimulator
* Sleep enhancer
* Relieves eye pressure - glaucoma
* Decreases muscle spasms
* Chronic pain reliever
* Stops convulsions
* Nausea relief - relief from vomiting

Also, the health effects of cannabis are well-documented in the treatment of:

* Epilepsy
* Multiple sclerosis
* Arthritis - relieves stiffness and swelling
* AIDS and HIV
* Anxiety and panic attacks
* fibromyalgia - relieves pressure and chronic pain
* Gout - relieves swelling and pain in legs and feet
* Parkinson’s - help muscular tremors and pain
* Sexual dysfunction

Nowhere in medical history has anyone died from marijuana-induced heart failure"
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:53 AM
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4. WOOHOO.
What bullshit.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:53 AM
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5. Bullshit.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:54 AM
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6. Wow! Nothing in that pantload is true.
Not a thing. That's one of the lamest examples of Reefer Madness ever.

All the long ago de-bunked talking points are there. :rofl:
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:59 AM
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12. No all of those things are true to one degree or another
In the same way that death can be a side effect of taking aspirin, if you catch my drift.

All drugs have dangers. Cannabis is no exception. However, when all is said and done, the most serious danger of using cannabis is imprisonment (depending on your location).
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:02 AM
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16. They are not.
You are mis-informed.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:24 AM
Response to Reply #12
66. No, they're not...
and the danger of imprisonment isn't caused by marijuana, it's caused by BS drug laws created by corrupt governments looking to enrich their law enforcement and private prison industry buddies, but way to buy into the hype. :eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #12
137. Nonsense...
Air has dangers... water too... did you know you can die from drinking too much water?

If those things are true to a degree... it's a minuscule degree.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #137
142. Yes
Everybody seemed to miss my point.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:22 AM
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29. Actually all of them are true in one form or another.
The issue is that many other things give off the same effects. Like drinking.

But, of course, weed has many other good side effects.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:30 AM
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32. Not true.
Some of them may be true in one user or another. Not everyone reacts the same. However, in general terms, the OP is pure fucking progaganda.

The effects of cannabis are nothing like alcohol.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:35 AM
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34. As someone who smoked on average 3 times a week for a couple years...
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 01:36 AM by Paradoxical
I think I can say that I'm comfortable in my knowledge of pot.

And the reality is that pot can generate many of the same side effects as alcohol consumption.

The issue I take with the OP is that many of those effects are short term and merely a product of being under the influence. They will subside as soon you come down.

However, the possibility of becoming dependent on pot use is a very real issue. I know several people who must be high all the time in order to get by. Of course, that does not necessitate an addiction. And the underlying cause is actually depression and anxiety.

I stopped smoking because I was beginning to have bad highs.

I am in no way saying that all the side effects will apply to everyone. But the idea that pot is a miracle cure all that is for everyone and will only give you good consequences is a myth. It has many miraculous uses. But at the same time you must also recognize the less than beneficial side effects.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:41 AM
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37. 3 times a week for a couple of years isn't enough.
I've smoked like a Rasta since 1966, been a cannabis activist (medicinal and recreational) for the same period of time, and studied the subject extensively.

Sorry, you lose.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:46 AM
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38. You can be an activist and still recognize reality.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 01:47 AM by Paradoxical
No one is going to consider you a lesser stoner if you accept the facts.

I support legalization. That doesn't mean that I think pot is for everyone. It isn't. I've seen what happens when someone who shouldn't smoke smokes.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:57 AM
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40. Who ever said it was for everyone?
In general terms, the info in the OP is bullshit.

Most of it is bullshit on it's face. Some of the negative stuff might apply occasionally to some users.

The positives of cannabis outweigh the negatives by far. That's just the way it is.

Tho OP is a hit piece. Propaganda.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:59 AM
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42. "Tho OP is a hit piece" - That may very well be true.
And I did not notice at the time that it said pot puts you at a risk for cancer.

It does not. In fact, all the information I've been able to gather is that it might actually fight cancer cells.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #42
43. Exactly.
Nice to agree on something. :hi:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:28 AM
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67. In a real-world sense, these are simply not true
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:19 AM
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96. First thing that came to my mind when I read that was reefer madness
If it wasn't for that movie I probably never would have tried pot. I figured if they would go to those extremes as they did to make that then there has to be something there. 43 years ago and still have a toke from time to time.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:55 AM
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7. THE DANGERS OF MARIJUANA ARE . . .
. . . getting busted.



A Child's Garden of Grass, 1970

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtupT_dFxGc&feature=related
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:55 AM
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9. This....
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:12 AM
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24. I used to listen to that when I went to sleep as a young teen. nt
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:55 AM
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8. Don't forget "subject to one of the most expensive, destructive, and futile prohibitions in history"
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:56 AM
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10. Hardly an authoritative, unbiased or credible source, wouldn't you agree? (nt)
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #10
15. You certainly don't think OUR government
would ever lie about it, do you? ;-)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:00 AM
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13. Huh? Who pinned the McGruff crime badge on you?
And as was said earlier, even if all that bs, and it is bs. I'm high right now and I'm not hallucinating, my heart rate is nice and mellow, and I'm definitely not paranoid. No one's out to get me - I'm not worth it.

But even if all that were true, it would be worth it. Oh yeah!

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #13
23. Gotta love the one about "increased risk of cancer"
Even though the latest evidence points to cannabis being a cancer inhibitive.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:15 AM
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26. LOL I know
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #23
51. Maybe they meant "increased risk TO cancer"
Someone's gotta look out for those cancer cells.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:16 AM
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112. Yup, they scrubbed the NCI website, a division of NIH
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 11:22 AM by robdogbucky
that had that new information about evidence that cannabis was a tumor inhibitor. It had been published there:


"General Information

Cannabis, also known as marijuana, originated in Central Asia but is grown worldwide today. In the United States, it is a controlled substance and is classified as a Schedule I agent (a drug with increased potential for abuse and no known medical use). The Cannabis plant produces a resin containing psychoactive compounds called cannabinoids. The highest concentration of cannabinoids is found in the female flowers of the plant.<1> As a botanical, Cannabis is difficult to study because of the lack of standardization of the botanical product due to the many climates and environments in which it is grown. Clinical trials conducted on medicinal Cannabis are limited.

The potential benefits of medicinal Cannabis for people living with cancer include antiemetic effects, appetite stimulation, pain relief, and improved sleep. In the practice of integrative oncology, the health care provider may recommend medicinal Cannabis not only for symptom management but also for its possible direct antitumor effect.
Cannabinoids are a group of terpenophenolic compounds found in Cannabis species (Cannabis sativa L. and Cannabis indica Lam.). This summary will review the role of Cannabis and the cannabinoids in the treatment of people with cancer and disease-related or treatment-related side effects.

References

1. Adams IB, Martin BR: Cannabis: pharmacology and toxicology in animals and humans. Addiction 91 (11): 1585-614, 1996. "


"Colleagues,

Interesting to see this new “Cannabis and Cannabinoids” section added to the National Cancer Institute website. You’ll note that the page doesn’t just acknowledge the “potential benefits of medicinal cannabis” to treat symptoms of cancer chemotherapy, but there is also an acknowledgement that cannabinoids potentially possess a “direct antitumor effect” in humans. This may be the first time the NCI, which is a branch of the NIH, has ever acknowledged this point.

Schedule I???!!! Still??!!"


And now this information has been scrubbed. Don't you all just love our democracy and our government? I wonder whose interest has been served by doing this?


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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:00 AM
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14. There's this little thing you can click for "sarcasm""...
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 01:04 AM by Sonoman
I don't know how it works, but I have seen it around here.

Sonoman

edited to substitute 'sarcasm' for 'satire'.
S
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TheCanadianLiberal Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:03 AM
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17. I don't think it should be legal...
There I said it. I don't believe it should be legal.

Some people won't ever see the negative sides of it because they can't handle to truth.

Pot is no better then anything else.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. You're full of it.
"no better then anything else" is probably the lamest description of cannabis I've ever heard. It conveys no thought whatsoever.

Cannabis rules.
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TheCanadianLiberal Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #19
31. Fine then...
Enjoy your pot and cheetos. Hope it all works out for you!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:36 AM
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35. Keep stereotyping, if it makes you feel superior.
Cheetos? I haven't eaten a goddamn cheeto since I was a kid. Surprised you made no "Mom's basement" comment. I prefer fine cheeses and pork fat.

Seriously, do you really have to pigeonhole everything into comfortable little boxes to limit your fear of the unknown? Wouldn't it be better to educate yourself?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:52 AM
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39. Every time some one writes, "pot and cheetos" I send an email to Frito Lay.
Pot and Cheetos
Pot and Cheetos
Pot and Cheetos

Cheetos and Pot!

Cheetos and Pot!
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #39
127. I Know
Pot flavored Cheetos!!!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #31
81. You are hilarious. You offer no reason or evidence for your
wild statements. If we were to put all of the people I know who smoke or eat marijuana in a room, you would see dozens of self made millionaires (topping out near a billion) many famous faces, holders of elected offices, winners of Oscars, of Nobel (just one), bestselling authors, of course recording artists of every stripe, from hip hop to Broadway, it just does not end.
Now if you took all the drinkers I know and put them in a room, you'd need good ventilation because many of them are dead and rotting already.
So have a Molson's and think about it, eh?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:32 AM
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33. Pot is better than a hammer to the head, Or cyanide.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:02 AM
Response to Reply #17
57. "Those" people *deserve* to be punished..
Because they do not agree with _me_ and choose to partake of something I don't like.

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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:07 AM
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59. Neither do I
But not for the same reasons as you.

You're right; pot is no better BUT NO WORSE than other commononly available drugs. In most cases, the danger of cannabis is far less than other substances.

I'm in no hurry to see pot legalised for a number of reasons, the main ones being issues of excise, taxation and regulation. I do, however, wish to see cannabis totally and unconditionally decrimininalised.

As you offered no alternative in your post I can only assume that you also wish for decrim, as a liberal couldn't really do otherwise.

Underpinning my lifestyle and views is the belief that a human's only true possession is their own body and the individual, alone, is the one and only judge of the substances that body consumes.

To me your post was small minded and not well considered. I invite you to respond.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:13 AM
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93. Please clarify this point:
You don't want it legalized because you don't want it taxed. Then you talk about decriminalization. Decriminalization means it changes to a civil infraction, which will still include penalties, almost certainly including fines. So you don't want it taxed, but you want fines for it? I don't follow.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #17
83. There. You said it. Again.
As if you've bitten your tongue in the past.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #17
91. OK, but if it's no better than anything else then nothing should be legal
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:04 AM
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18. As it is with every drug (whether it's over the county or illegal)...
If you take too much, it will impact you.

I don't smoke pot (my job drug tests), but I have and have no problem with the legalization of it. However, I also have hung out with friends who've been smokin' since junior high on more than just a recreational basis and they're like tree stumps.

Complete morons.

But at least they're funny. And have a lot of good food lying around.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:07 AM
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20. Hmm... Drive-By? Or did you want to discuss this?
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:10 AM
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22. More D.A.R.E propaganda?
Strange how prescription drug abuse is ignored. Perhaps it has something to do with who is pushing the product.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:13 AM
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25. It turns kids into smelly hippies and is associated with leftist beliefs
Marijuana prohibition is an effective way of checking liberalism by targeting free-thinkers while they are still young.

The drug wars in general have been used to disenfranchise the left and minorities by creating non-victim felons who can't vote.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:19 AM
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28. ROFLMAO... that link is like
Reefer Madness.. it's fucking hilarious.


Get a fucking grip. First of all some of that list is bogus. Psychological dependency is bullshit, that depends on the person, so is increased heart rate. Hallucinations too. Some of the others depend on the person as well, lots of people function just fine when they are high. Also I would put "diminished inhibitions" in the plus column. :)

Now take what's left and compare it to any pharmaceutical on the market. No one said it isn't a drug. But it's pretty damn harmless and actually quite useful for many things.

What you posted is nothing more than paranoid anti-drug propaganda.
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:40 AM
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36. Are there any negative effects?
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:20 AM
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44. O = Zero deaths from overdoses. .
This post is Bullshit.


Don't make me take your drugs and I won't make you take mine.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:38 AM
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47. Next you will be sticking up for



FRANK



ZAPPA or something.









-me too!-
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:02 PM
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123. RIP Frank!
I'm so into Zappa that I even love 'Thingfish'.

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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 01:58 AM
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41. Why do so many of these types of threads have one hit wonder OP posters?
The OP will post a controversial post like this and then run and never respond. So lame.

Those kind of side effects can be said about most anything in one way or another.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:23 AM
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52. Because the anti-legalization authoritarians are a minority. Not only do most people here disagree
but the facts and science aren't on their side, either.

Basically, pot prohibition is a giant, expensive, cruel clusterfuck that benefits no one except the folks riding the $$$drug$$$ $$$war$$$ $$$gravy$$$ $$$train$$$.


There's NO logical, coherent argument for spending $40 Billion a year to criminalize a relatively benign psychoactive plant that billions of consenting adult humans have enjoyed recreationally for millennia.
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:39 AM
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104. You are totally correct, its not people can grow hydrocodones in their basement and...
...not give big pharma their extreme profit margins.

That whole webpage was such a farking farce.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:22 AM
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45. Like anything else, of course there are risk factors. That's fine. My bowl of green will do...
far less damage to both me and the planet than the Big Mac my neighbor just ate, or the gas-guzzler he drives. Now excuse me while I spark one.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:39 AM
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48. Sounds like some of the things people that have never smoked it suffer from.
eom
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:48 AM
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50. Addtionally,
• Increased skill in arts and crafts.
• Diminished food supplies.
• Um... what was my third one again?
• A new appreciation for pie.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:13 AM
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73. mmmm, pie.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:28 AM
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53. I feel like I'm hallucinating similarities to Obama claims of successes...
*Increased heart rate ?
*Diminished inhibitions ?
*Impaired perception ?

... "scary"?... gimme a friggin' break...
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Thegonagle Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:37 AM
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54. Welcome to my 1988 "chemical awareness" class from 8th grade.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 03:39 AM by Thegonagle
That's pretty much what we were taught about marijuana back then, too.

There was also this fictional horror story, about two sixteen year olds who "turn on" by smoking a joint, and then go out "joyriding" with predictable results (they crash the car and one or both of them die, in case you never had that class in school). I think the alcohol one was also about "joyriding" to similar gruesome deaths. The authors weren't reaching very deep.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:43 AM
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55. while it's probably not the greatest thing to ingest
on the scale of hazardous substances people put in their bodies, it's way down near the bottom. The costs of prohibition far outweigh the negatives of use/abuse.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:30 AM
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63. not the greatest thing to ingest?
it's even more safe if you eat it
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:53 AM
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56. You have posted this short catalogue of impairments
and at the time of my reply, have not contributed to the thread since the OP.

I agree that THREE items on your list are possible while consuming cannabis; Impaired perception, loss of concentration and motivation.

The remaining items (ten in all) are no more than possible effects. Interestingly, 8 of these 10 are obvious signs of alcohol impairment while all 13 are possible effects of prescription drug intake.

This post and your refusal to participate in the ensuing discussion, leads me to the conclusion that you are either:

a)Suggesting that a lifestyle free of all mind-altering substances is what you proscribe for DUers
b)Need attention and do so by posting provocative information

There is a third alternative; you may be so fucking off your face that you forgot the line that said 'I'm joking guys'. That's OK, we all make mistakes when we're high.

Peace to you, brother or sister. I hope you find the contentment that is so obviously lacking in your life.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:07 AM
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58. Either all the pros in here aren't stoned enough to forget spellchec, "or" they
haven't lost the ability to spell in spite of the terrible green monster eating their brains.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:09 AM
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60. Some of us
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 04:11 AM by canetoad
never needed it.

Edit to add: that went rite over my head for a minute :rofl:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:18 AM
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61. I appreciate you. Glad you were able to c thru it. n/t
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:26 AM
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62. zero, zip, zilch, nada
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:18 AM
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64. non-toxic, non-lethal, non-addictive make it less dangnerous than coffee
but way to go around spreading drug war BS propaganda. :eyes:
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Progress_LocalGlobal Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:23 AM
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65. smoking weed should be MANDATORY
HAPPY 420!!!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:51 AM
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68. GOSH a poorly done anti pot post on 4/20


-Hoot
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:55 AM
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69. Unrec apparently doesn't do negatives, n/t
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:20 AM
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70. "American Council for Drug Education" - Who are they?
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 06:21 AM by eShirl

They appear to have made several factual errors.


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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:51 AM
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78. Here ya go
http://www.acde.org

Can you say "agenda"?

http://www.phoenixhouse.org

Check board of directors of Phoenix House and follow the money
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:24 AM
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71. Not this shit again.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 06:25 AM by Le Taz Hot
(where's that picture when I need it?)

Here:

The Science of Pot:
The Studies

Marijuana Fights:

Heart Disease
Cancer
Diabetes
Osteoporosis
Alzheimer's
Liver Disease
Epilepsy
Skin Allergies
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
Anxiety and Depression

and is also Neuroprotective and Causes Neurogenesis (brain cell growth)

On edit: HAPPY 420 DAY!!!!

http://www.scientificfactsofpot.com/studies.htm
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:37 AM
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76. +1000
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:10 AM
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72. The real dangers of MJ aren't to individual people....
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 07:15 AM by wildbilln864
as it has never been shown to harm anyone person so far. You can't even OD on it. The dangers are to the big corporations who would loose billions if it were made legal!
Marijuana/cannabis/hemp can be used in tens of thousands of products.

It can relieve anxiety and depression so the manufacturers of zoloft, valium, prozac and the like don't want it legal! You could grow your own in your back yard.

Marijuana/cannabis/hemp has been shown to reduce and even eliminate cancer tumors. The cancer industry is a multi billion dollar industry and will never allow it to become legal. They'd loose billions!

It can be made into textiles as the first pair of Levi's were made from marijuana/cannabis/hemp.

It can be made into paper. Bibles were printed on it. No more need to cut down trees to make paper when a new crop of marijuana/cannabis/hemp can be harvested every three to four months.

The oil from the seeds can be used like diesel fuel. Imagine had it not ever been made illegal we'd probably not be in the wars for oil we're in today.

Also the plant itself can be used to make ethanol. A fuel.

And the seed is a very nutritious food product!

Those are the reasons Marijuana/cannabis/hemp is illegal! Not because it's bad for you but because it's bad for corporate profit!

ETA: Parts about marijuana/cannabis/hemp's cancer curing properties. :hi:
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:25 AM
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74. love this quote
“They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.” bill hicks
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mountainlion55 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:07 AM
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80. love it
GOOD point.:thumbsup:
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:31 AM
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75. The truth...
shall set us free!
This documentary reveals the truth about marijuana/cannabis/hemp! Not the bullshit corporate propaganda promoted in the OP!
marijuana documentary
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:38 AM
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77. Very_Boring_Propaganda
nt


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mountainlion55 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:54 AM
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79. ignorant statement
Your rant sounds like my high school teacher 35yrs ago. I have severe obstructive sleep apnea and Cannabis increases my sleep quality greatly. If you don't like it then mind your own business! :smoke:
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:08 AM
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82. Aspirin Dangers
Heartburn;
nausea;
vomiting;
upset stomach
rash;
hives;
itching;
difficulty breathing;
tightness in the chest;
swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue;
black or bloody stools;
confusion;
diarrhea;
dizziness;
drowsiness;
hearing loss;
ringing in the ears;
severe or persistent stomach pain;
unusual bruising;
vomiting;
cerebral microbleeding;
Reye Syndrome;
death

From a variety of sources, including drugs.com, bayer.com, and the Mayo clinic.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:21 AM
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84. hmm...RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 1 of 7)(a little TRUTH)
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:24 AM
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85. And::Happy 4/20! Top 5 Marijuana Stories from Disinfo.com
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:05 AM
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87. The real hidden danger - DHMO
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:07 AM
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89. coffee is a far more toxic substance.
thanks for the fear-mongering, though.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:30 AM
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100. Peanuts can kill you.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:08 AM
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90. The "paranoia" would disappear with the laws. ;-)
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:11 AM
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92. Sweet, even more benefits from smoking some ganja...
:smoke:



Besides not going through with murder...

Hey honey, you want to drive dad home...

Um....sure... yeah, give me 5 minutes tell him I'm getting the car warmed up :rofl:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:14 AM
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94. Check out their website. They are trying to sell a product. It is advantageous to them
to paint marijuana as a dangerous drug.

http://www.acde.org/catalog/catalog.htm
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:19 AM
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97. That sounds like what happens to you when you listen to too much right wing bullshit
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akwapez Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:52 AM
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98. ooh ooh..lemme guess..it's also a gateway drug?? PROPOGANDA
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:57 AM
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99. been waiting all week to post this on 4/20? lol
non-tokers are strange people
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:32 AM
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101. Just like beer and cigarettes, lol. nt
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:32 AM
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102. More authoritarian BS from an authoritarian BS website. -10000000 for pure propaganda.
You should be ashamed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:36 AM
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103. Deleted message
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:47 AM
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106. Sounds like what happens when you're a Republican.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:14 PM
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121. !
:spray:
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:48 AM
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107. Who gives a fuck?
Bullshit, weed saved my life, was able to break an alcohol problem 23 years ago.

Such stupid should be taxed.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:52 AM
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108. Loss of concentration and coordination> where do you get your views?
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:54 AM
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109. Pure Bullshit
I've smoked reefer for 44 fucking years. I have never wrecked a car, started a fight, hallucinated, had memory lapses, or become dependent. Why it is illegal is beyond me. It has helped many people that have cancer and is a miracle drug when used to combat the side effects of chemo.

If you changed the title to Alcohol dangers, I would give you a rec instead of the unrec I just gave this horse shit OP
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:01 AM
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110. Diminished inhibitions AND anxiety?
Ain't that a bitch?
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:09 AM
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111. Help, it's the attack of the Rovian Concern Trolls Again!!!!
What fucking idiot would parrot that bullshit propaganda?

And the website authors cannot even spell marijuana on the URL.

Cripes, get a clue, this is paid for by take your pick:

alcohol industry

pharmaceutical industry

energy industry

cotton industry


etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc..............


Fucking same old scare lies as always.


Why post this shit?

Waste of bandwidth


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blueskybigstar Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:21 AM
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113. Recent studies have shown much of this to be untrue
Marijuana prevents cancer.
Marijuana smokers live longer.
Marijuana smokers are less likely to get Alzheimers.
I play tennis on it. It does not impair my coordination.
It gives a different kind of concentration.
It does not diminish my inhibitions.
Hallucinations, never had one.
Pot smokers have also been shown to be better drivers than non-pot smokers because they take less risks.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:26 AM
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114. Inspiration, Oil, Food, Textiles, Medicine, Fuel, Paper
beats what the pharmaceutical companies have to offer.
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:32 AM
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115. Total BS ... n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:34 AM
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116. Don't step on the grass Sam!
Starin' at the boob tube, turnin' up the big knob
Tryin' to find some life in the waste land
Fin'ly found a program, gonna deal with Mary Jane
Ready for a trip into the hate land
Obnoxious Joe comes on the screen
Along with his guest self-righteous Sam
And one more guy who doesn't count
His hair and clothes are much far out

While pushin' back his glasses Sam says
He was elected by the masses
And with that in mind he starts to unwind
A vicious attack upon the grasses

Well it's mean, evil, wicked and nasty
(Don't step on the grass, Sam)
And it will ruin our fair country
(Don't be such an ass, Sam)
Well, it will hook your sons and daughters
(You're so full of bull, Sam)
All will pay that disagree with me

Misinformation Joe and Sam
Are feeding to the nation
But the one who didn't count counted them out
Exposing all their false quotations
Faced by a very awkward situation
This is all he'd have say to save the day

Well it's mean, evil, wicked and nasty
(Don't step on the grass, Sam)
And it will ruin our fair country
(Don't be such an ass, Sam)
Well, it will hook your sons and daughters
(You're so full of bull, Sam)
All will pay that disagree with me
(Please give up you've already lost the fight alright)

You waste my coin Sam, all you can
To jail my fellow man
For smoking all the noble weed
You need much more than him
You've been telling lies so long
Some believe they're true
So they close their eyes to things
They have no right to do
Just as soon as you are gone
Hope will start to climb
Please don't stay around too long
You're wasting precious time

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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:00 PM
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118. Oh, I thought you were describing
the No Child Left Behind dangers.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:05 PM
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120. I'm at risk .... Of running out!
:rofl:
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 12:19 PM
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122. Hallucinations?
You gotta be kidding me. I think the short-term memory loss is disputed but hallucinations? I imagine those are very rare.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:01 PM
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130. It makes music sound good- is that what they mean- auditory hallucinations?


I mean, is it really going to blow up the world if my Cramps LPs sound a little cooler?

Where do we get the shit that makes you see shit? Never ran across it.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:56 PM
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126. Jesus Christ, aspartame is more dangerous.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:58 PM
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128. And it makes you grow tits. Plus, it leads to harder things, like cigs & whiskey.
It's a gateway drug- before pot I never got hooked on cheetos & beer.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 02:59 PM
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129. prove each one, please.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:13 PM
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131. here goes:
* Impaired perception- Yes- makes Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Ghost Adventures, Three Stooges, Munsters, etc. clever, intetresting shows.
* Diminished short-term memory. Yes- what was that question again?
* Loss of concentration and coordination. Yes- thiiiss threasd is about the pot, right?.
* Impaired judgement. I am posting on DU, in this thread. Nuff said.
* Increased risk of accidents. I am posting on DU, in this thread. Nuff said.
* Loss of motivation. Are we done yet?
* Diminished inhibitions. Wanna screw?
* Increased heart rate. Ever has to run to the clinic right b/f it closes?
* Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia. Everytime I walk past a cop, in fact.
* Hallucinations- Liberals are making conservative arguments- it cant be real!
* Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems. Must be true, since they ask about pot use on insurance forms.
* Increased risk of cancer. Must be true, since they ask about pot use on insurance forms.
* Psychological dependency-Who ever heard of taking a drug in order to foster psychological independency?
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:31 PM
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143. Ah, you beat me to it.
But here are my answers not totally tongue-in-cheek:

* Impaired perception ------------------------------------------------------------------ ALTERED perception, impaired -- hardly ;)
* Diminished short-term memory ---------------------------------------------------- I don't remember trying to remember anything
* Loss of concentration and coordination ----------------------------------------- dead wrong.
* Impaired judgement ------------------------------------------------------------------- dead wrong.
* Increased risk of accidents ---------------------------------------------------------- maybe for some people? (I presume there were scientific studies on this . . . hm?)
* Loss of motivation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- yep.
* Diminished inhibitions ----------------------------------------------------------------- nope / yep / depends on the pot and the people!
* Increased heart rate -------------------------------------------------------------------- I have no idea
* Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia ----------------------------------------------- sometimes, but they pass very nicely
* Hallucinations ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- no
* Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems ------------- no
* Increased risk of cancer ---------------------------------------------------------------- never heard this one before
* Psychological dependency ------------------------------------------------------------ I think this may be true.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:48 PM
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132. pish posh -- happy 420!
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:51 PM
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133. “They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie!
When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.”

Bill Hicks
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:51 PM
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134. Increased Oreo consumption
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:52 PM
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135. Once Every Few Months We Get a Thread Attempting to Stoke Fears of Marijuana
it's getting very boring
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:00 PM
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138. Nonsense. There are absolutely NO negative effects whatsoever of pot.
In fact, it's such a net positive, that it should be a required part of all public school meals.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:06 PM
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139. Your link is full of myths
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 04:09 PM by JonLP24
Starting with today's pot is stronger than the 70's and 1 joint equals 5 cigarettes. It even tries to play the "gateway drug" angle.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:24 PM
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141. harumph. been a daily smoker for going on 30 years....
sometimes more than once a day.

the only ill effect i've had is munchies, if i give in to them. oh, cotton mouth is a bitch.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:35 PM
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144. I HAVE THE SAME SYMPTOMS WATCHING MSNBC.....
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:42 PM
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145. my 21 y.o. daughter already has major back issues
and her prescription for pot is the only thing that has given her some relief. I thank God, or whatever you want to call it, for that bit of relief.
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houstonintc Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:52 PM
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146. All things have down sides....
The key is moderation.

Sure if you smoke weed every day of your life you might suffer these issues but if you can keep it under control then no issues are likely to arise.
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