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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:27 PM
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HuffPost bans 'Trig Truthers'...
Huffington Post appears to have drawn the line on acceptable political debate to exclude theories about the nativity of Sarah Palin's youngest son.

Palin critic Geoffrey Dunn, who has contributed a long line of attacks on the former Alaska governor to the site, published his version of the "Trig Truther" theory to Business Insider today, after Huffington Post turned the blog post down.

"We did pass on a submission by Geoffrey Dunn about Trig, as it ran counter to our policy against conspiracy theories," Huffington Post spokesman Mario Ruiz confirmed in an email.

There's a solid bipartisan tradition of such purges, which includes in the online era the DailyKos ban on 9/11 Truthers and RedState's Birther ban. But the Trig theorizing had mostly avoided that fate, partly because it never developed the sort of mass following of the others, partly because there's so much vitriol for Palin on the left and partly because its most visible proponent, Andrew Sullivan, is a unique media property with a large audience of his own, valuable enough to the Daily Beast that they'll shrug off the Trig theories as an eccentricity as long as his readers abide it.

The theories of Trig's nativity seem -- to my nonexpert eye -- to share one thing in particular with the conspiracies about Obama's birth: They began in one form, then changed to evade inconvenience facts. In Obama's case, there were debunked Muslim rumors and ill-informed notions about the law of citizenship; people who wanted to believe Obama was a foreigner only settled on the birth certificate nonsense late, after those had dead-ended.

*snip*

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/HuffPost_bans_Trig_Truthers.html
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:28 PM
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1. I bet Obama Birfers are still allowed...
I don't go there anymore... I'm just betting.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:32 PM
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5. There's a birfer story...
on there right now. :eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:40 PM
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10. Sometimes it just isn't satisfying to be right...
:banghead:

I keep being reminded why I don't read that trash anymore. At least that part is good.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:28 PM
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2. let it go folks, palin is not worth the energy.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:44 PM
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12. I think something is seriously fishy about this...
But yeah, she's not worth it. I doubt she will ever get close to another political campaign and this is just one of many reasons why. She won't release any personal information so we may never really know.

That said, we should let it go. The fewer times her name appears in the InterTubes, and in progressive blogs and message boards, the better.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:30 PM
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3. I believe Sarah Palin is Trig's mother.
Not that it matters. When we make a big deal about who Trig's real mother is, we are no better than the birthers.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:35 PM
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7. +1.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:23 PM
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20. +2
In the scheme of things, I really couldn't care less about who this kid's mother is.

Maybe it's because I'm looking for a job and have increasing medical bills to somehow cover.

When we also take the low road with crap like this we have no room to complain when the Right does it. Let's do what I've seen suggested here many times: Don't give the Palins any more time of day.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:31 PM
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23. So
they can lie about us but we can't tell the truth about them?
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SoulSearcher Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:49 PM
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26. Who is the US and who is the THEM??
If your talking about politics - they BOTH Lie Cheat and Steal.

"No new Taxes"
"Mission Accomplished"
"Most Transparent Government"

Just hoping the latest one (Libya)
"No boots on the ground" works out for once...
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:56 PM
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29. Really, the "they BOTH do it" right-wing talking point is done to death here.
You need a new meme to push.
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SoulSearcher Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:10 PM
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31. new meme
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 06:15 PM by SoulSearcher
Im disgusted with Lies, Iraq, Libya and food costs
going up, but that is just a meme.
So lets go back and make fun of a Down's syndrome kid instead.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:18 PM
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32. And who is doing that? 'Making fun'? I don't see it.
Another right-wing meme, good for you.
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SoulSearcher Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:35 PM
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35. I see reference, but perhaps too sensitive.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 08:35 PM by SoulSearcher
For the record, I'm NOT a Palin fan, nor a trump fan. etc.
And I DO NOT respect the references to incest as the reason
Trig is afflicted with Down's Syndrome. So, that is THAT.

I am also not a fan of getting into a flame war, But leave
the Down-Syndrome kids out of it. Guarantee if you knew
anyone personally with a child with this problem, you would
see the equation more easily. That being said, I dont like being
called a Right Winger for bringing up the fact that BOTH parties
are full of BS while the nation teeters on our (United States)
leadership decisions. Maybe I am a little frayed on that point.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:21 PM
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33. Agree
I just sometimes reflexively support the dems because there's a few of them that don't lie. I think too as you get away from DC there are even more good dems.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:30 PM
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4. That's because Arianna Huffington is really Trig's mom. n/t
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:33 PM
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6. All she has to do is show us the birth certificate.
She has never shown the birth certificate to any news media and has never published it on line. If she simply showed it to us this whole thing could be put to rest.

I bet Trig wasn't even born in the US. I bet he was born in Kenya.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:40 PM
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11. I won't worry about it until he runs for president. Until then, his place of birth is irrelevant.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:15 PM
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19. Seems pretty simple.
Could be a national security issue if she were to become President. Where's the BC and where's Sarah's medical records?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:48 PM
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25. I doubt it...
Seriously.

Even if they were to show the birth certificate, there would be some who would say they had paid someone off.

If someone who was present at the birth came forward, same thing. People would claim the that person had been paid.

DNA testing. Same. If it's not 100%...which DNA testing never is, as far as I know, except between identical twins, there would be people claiming that .1% PROVES he's not Sarah's child.

The only way I can see people putting this to rest once and for all would be if they had personally been there to see the baby emerge from her body.

Too late for that now, thank goodness.

What's sad is that this conspiracy shit sounds exactly like what we would see from the Freepers if Sarah Palin were a Democrat. Or even directed toward some other female Democrat they were terrified of.

Then what hooting and hollering there would be!!!

"How DARE they??? Fucking stupid ass Freepers!!! ASSHOLES!!! Conspiracy theory...fail!!!"

and more.

I would like to think that we at DU are better than to stoop to the level of Freepers, but....

:shrug:



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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:36 PM
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8. You know, I never have, nor never will engage in debating anything with this "story" because
there is a small boy involved who is innocent and has way too much to face in the world ahead of him. I don't care what is parentage is. The whole thing should be dropped and is disgraceful that there are those among us, liberals who claim to be concerned for the plight of children and those with disabilities, who would even stop to engage in this shameful crap. Actually, I don't consider those of you who do this to be liberal at all but to be provocateurs.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:53 PM
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28. Apparently there are some who don't give a rat's ass
who gets hurt in the process of trying to destroy someone else.


Palin is a virtual non-entity. I can't see where people like her any better now than they did in 2008.


So really, there's no need to target her, and there's absolutely no need to hurt her innocent son in the process.

You're right. It's shameful. And not what I expect from people who call themselves "Liberals/Democrats/Progressives".

this is Neanderthal bullshit.

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:39 PM
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9. am I the only one
when I see 'trig' + 'truth' I immediately think of...



but then again I'm a massive geek.
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:21 PM
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30. What I thought upon reading the headline...
"Hmmm. Maybe there is some 9-11 conspiracy theory that is heavily based on trigonometry and has been banned from HuffPo. That is unusual. This could be interesting."
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:45 PM
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13. Speculation about Trig's real mother is the Left equivalent of birthers.
Does anyone here really want to be like them? :shrug: Unlike the birthers it is time to grow up and concentrate on important things.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:57 PM
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16. Well, not really. While a significant number of us realize there are questions
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 03:57 PM by Warpy
most of that number realize there are as yet no answers to those questions.

Birthers think they know the answers and make up 50% of the GOP.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:04 PM
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17. there is ZERO evidence obama was born anywhere other than hawaii, BUT
there are pictures of a supposedly far along palin looking very not pregnant.

that's hardly conclusive, but it certainly puts it in a very different category from a theory with less evidence to support it than to support the theory that martians exist.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:33 PM
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24. No It's Not
one is lying/stupid and the other is just asking for answers of something that's highly suspicious.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:47 PM
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14. When will DU adopt this policy?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:23 PM
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21. Can't be too soon for me. n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:51 PM
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15. Awww. That's no fun.
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shockra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:13 PM
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18. Celebrity is the best teflon.
Sarah knew this when she accepted the VP nomination. She can and will get away with anything.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:24 PM
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22. I haven't given a shit about HuffPo in ages.
Anything I need to find, I can find linked here at DU.

Bake
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:51 PM
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27. HuffWhat?
Never heard of it.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:26 PM
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34. Putting her child at terrible risk shows poor judgement at least.
Or covering up a family birth shows she is a liar. Either truth give us insight into the personality of one of the country's most polarizing women.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:43 PM
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36. Good for HuffPo. Don't fight birther shit with equally foul smelling matter. nt
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:47 PM
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37. I believe that Trig's momma...
no matter who she may be, is a first-rate dumbass.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:48 PM
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40. I'm guessing the dad is, too.
THREAD OVER!
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:03 PM
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42. Well you wrapped it up, drinks on me!!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:48 PM
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38. The truth will come out in due time.
The truth about EVERYthing they lie(d) to us about (including this) will come out in due time.

To be honest, I really don't see what the huge problem is.

You're fishing for "embarrassing" things? Try Democrats and DU'ers that support free trade, job offshoring, globalization, general IT snobbery and laissez-fail economics. That's an embarrassment, not a handful of people speculating on whether a non-pregnant-looking, half-term quitter who's hundreds of miles ahead of where she should be in life covered up for her kid/husband's dalliances or not.

I will dictate what I find shameful to me, not anyone else.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:48 PM
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39. People care what AOLPost has to say?
:rofl:

Keep rolling in that money Ariana:)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:50 PM
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41. "The middle class is DYING, dahlings!! Hey, shouldn't you free bloggers be writing some gossip?"
:rofl: :rofl:
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:22 PM
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43. Truthers, birthers, triggers. If politics didn't get in the way.
They would all be the best of friends.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:01 PM
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44. I would bet the return of the Trig theory is astroturf to make the left look bad to moderates
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 10:05 PM by applegrove
because now the right looks to be a loony bin. I would not put it past the right wing astroturfers to do something like this.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:16 PM
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45. HuffPo totally kisses Palin's ass
Without her, what else is there for them to write about?

I swear, that site has turned into complete, utter crap. Yes, I still read it, but mostly out of habit. Trying to ween myself off of it with Raw Story and TPM instead.
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