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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:42 PM
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History Channel doing program on Seven Deadly Sins now uses socialism and capitalism
as the basis for a discussion of the sin of envy. Narrator just said that socialism holds back the best and most talented of society and thus constrains the whole society citing East and West Germany as examples. Then he went on to inform us that we are hardwired for envy...so....I guess that means we're hardwired for capitalism.

Sheesh. LIke we aren't social animals?
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:44 PM
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1. I don't watch that crap just a show trying to draw in those crazy people
who are obsessed with death and religion. The history channel does still have some good stuff on it, but if you want religious history thats not crazy, thats on history international.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:45 PM
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3. I just find that this is an interesting vehicle to spread
capitalism as religion/propaganda.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:45 PM
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2. WTF!? THose 2 are NO WAY close to being any way NEAR the 7! This is BS
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:46 PM
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4. It gets better followed by a discussion of penis envy and
the Oedipal complex and Sigmund Freud.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:46 PM
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5. Just look up who funded the program
That will tell you plenty.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:50 PM
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6. Freud and others say envy is a kind of disorder or illness.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 04:03 PM by EFerrari
It's the inability to enjoy the good fortune of others. More than a lack of empathy, it's more like the inverse of empathy. IOW, we're not hard wired for it. On the contrary, it's rare enough to be studied as an anomaly.

Maybe the HC means, their right wing authoritarian audience is hard wired for it.

ETA: What I meant to say is that envy is a condition where any good fortune or gain by another feels like a loss for you.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:52 PM
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7. It's what I keep talking about -- "giving a negative damn".
If they didn't give a damn, it would be an improvement.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:56 PM
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9. Exactly!
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:55 PM
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8. A channel that has a series called "Ancient Aliens",
which proposes that all the achievements of ancient peoples were done by aliens, is not a channel I take seriously. This is coming from someone who is open to the idea of life on other planets.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:03 PM
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10. Additional interesting framing in the ending of this program was the notion
that nations with resources (example cited, water) in the future may want to decide how to use the envy of other nations who have scarcity of the resources. Now I wouldn't call needing water for survival an issue of envy. I found this whole program to be interesting in that it is shaping a political view.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:08 PM
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11. Randorrhoids should never be allowed anywhere near the History Channel
but unfortunately outfits like The Heritage Foundation have been cranking out silly rewritten history and bullshit science for years and some cable channels are desperate for cheap content.

The idiot is obviously a light switch either/or sort of thinker who doesn't consider that most successful economies are mixed economies and that socialism has less to do with envy than with a sense of basic fairness toward other people.

I don't find people other than Randorrhoids hard wired for envy, at all. While they might admire something someone else has and try to work toward getting the same thing for themselves, envy doesn't enter into it.

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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:38 PM
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15. Yeah, that's what I figured it was. Just more bullshit
RW propaganda. I think it was Maggie Thatcher (Reagan's hero) who said that we're not a society, we're just a collection of individuals. Calling envy "hard wired" just gets the non empathetic (every RWer) off the hook for his lack of empathy. It's not a social impediment, it's "hard wired".
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:33 PM
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12. I used to watch the History Channel all the time.......
Then Rupert Murdoch bought it. I don't watch so much anymore.

Did they use capitalism for the sin of GREED??????????? I'm sure not.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:35 PM
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14. Greed is good! Greed is virtue!
Thus spoke John Galt.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 04:33 PM
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13. There's a reason why I tend to limit my kids' learning programs to science shows. There is very
little about history that I trust to be correct on TV and I don't want the boys walking away from any show with the wrong idea. An additional benefit to watching more scientific shows is that I think it's helping to breed a healthy sense of skepticism in the kids, and hopefully some higher thinking skills as well.
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OhioDoink Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:01 PM
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16. I used to watch the History Channel al the time.........
Now it is either the religion network or a reality network.Top Gun,Ice Road Truckers,Log Men,Pawnstars,American Pickers,and so on.Hell,now they have Larry The Cable Guy teaching us History.What a joke it has become,a persons I.Q goes down after watching that garbage.
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