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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:29 AM
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Robert Reich: EXTORTION POLITICS "In fact, it’s a giant game of highway chicken"
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 09:29 AM by kpete
Extortion Politics: Why Won’t American Business Stop the GOP From Threatening to Blow Up The Economy?
TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2011

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In fact, it’s a giant game of highway chicken, and if one driver doesn’t yield the crash will be catastrophic.

Games of chicken are won by drivers able to convince their opponents they won’t swerve. That gives a strategic advantage to Republicans backed by the Tea Party, who are so convinced government is evil they’ve signaled they’d be willing to risk it.

But this shouldn’t be a matter of political strategy. Disagreement about the nation’s budget should be worked out through the constitutional process of majority votes in Congress, followed by the President’s signature or veto, and Congress’s right to override the veto.

No group of legislators is entitled to threaten to crash the United States economy if its demands aren’t met.

the rest:
http://robertreich.org/post/4748346103
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:54 AM
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1. yea that is much of it.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 10:08 AM by RandomThoughts
It also can do damage to your soul by trying to make you think by not moving off your principle it is you that is hurting some group or yourself.

It is the story of someone threatening to do harm if you do not agree with him, then trying to make you seem responsible for the harm.

That is how many things are.

There are thousands of things that are tried to get blamed on people that will not submit to what they feel is wrong.

If you submit to wrong, you give it what ability you have to stop it.

It is the old saying having the 'will to do what the other guy wont' What are you willing to let someone try to make happen, in order to resist what you feel is wrong. The difference is you do not 'do bad' you just don't back down by them threatening to 'do bad to people'. Also how they 'Kill you with your love' from the movie The Green Mile. It is a very old concept, trying to get someone not backing down to give in.

You explain your position, and what you feel is right, and know it is someone else doing the wrong.

Most bad tries to make you think you did the harm, when you simply would not go along with a lesser bad thing by use of some threat. It is also in torture training, the stress positions are made so the torture can say the person is doing it to themselves, not having it wrongly done to them.

It is then said if they don't comply, that is why they are hurt, not someone hurting them wrongly.

That same mentality is tried to get someone to accept wrong.

However I have no problem with complete and total end of all existence, before moving off of what I feel is correct, and which has not been able to be explained as wrong.

And I am due beer and travel money, and believe in justice and compassion, and do not move off those points, becuase my argument is just, and has not been shown unjust.

Use of threats or even bad things, does not change what is right, it does show bad for being bad, so in that standing for what is better, and not giving in on core beliefs and values, is important.

But you have to listen and learn, to make sure you are right, and not stubborn without thinking and feeling.


People say the hardship of not having beer and travel money, a minor one compared to some hardships, but still a hardship, is becuase of what I do, same thing. They will blame someone standing for a correct principle of being wrong to try and break them. It is done all the time.


This really is a great song.

Answer Sarah Mclachlan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8B1ai25lUo


If all else fails, tie your shoe to the peddle. (Sun Tzu, Art of War "Put yourself on Death ground with no retreat possible.") That's what I do. And am willing to be on that ground.

"I Need a Hero", by Bonnie Tyler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCOPuGBg_W0#t=00m04s


300 / HIM - Don't Fear the Reaper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3h70aRFxQ
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:00 AM
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2. thanks for sharing
"If all else fails, tie your shoe to the peddle."

peace, kpete

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:02 AM
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4. Peace? Are you aware I am due beer and travel money?
Peace would be great, but while being oppressed by waring factions, do you think such a concept is best choice of action? Although I do think pieces, work good, and do not fight by fighting anyways, so things are peaceful in that, but peace? There are some corrections needed.


Side Note.
The funny thing is if you haven't read all the posts, you don't see it.

If someone says Reeves Re eves, rooftop, so then someone brings up hard fight they had, and that is why it has been explained how some make bad things happen to someone, then say it was from some divine action.

The first superman was not only shot, they then did a pilot episode of 'dogs' as superman characters to smear his memory as an inside joke.

Then again I ignore noun based label trap.

Think it is a combo culture, Rhea thing, best guess.

And if you figure out how the Medusa story works, you will have a little more insight. Put the pieces together, it explains some stuff.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:17 AM
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5. no peace?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:28 AM
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7. If you had any idea or capability of knowing anything about that story.
Then you would have seen it.

LOL, you don't make that decision, she is free. Nothing you can do about that.


And I did not say 'no peace' as in not having peace. I said it is ridiculous to say something like that while war is waged on so many innocent people.

I don't need peace, I have that, always have. But there are some without it, and I understand the concept of a good well wishing you were making.

But it is a fundamental misunderstanding. I am not in strife, if anything I have to keep focus to not let peace distract me from the injustice that needs correcting.

I am however due beer and travel money.

For me to accept peace while some are mistreated would be betrayal at least, and possibly worse.

And your post on cat or dog treats???? heh, don't you get it. REtreat, is not part of my vocabulary. It is not what I work for, becuase I am not what you think I am.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:33 AM
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8. "I am not what you think I am."
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 11:34 AM by kpete
i bought that from the start...

"peace" is my way of saying "hasta Manana"
because w/o it
there is no tomorrow

p.s. i enjoy your posts, just don't understand them

pps. the dog video was something i had saved for my daughter, just wanted to make YOU smile?
kpete
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:08 PM
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9. In the post before yours.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 02:12 PM by RandomThoughts
I posted how a pilot of Superman was created with dogs to joke on concepts of justice, and better ideals.

you then post a clip about animal treats.


Guess I did not find that funny.

It does not bother me specifically, I understand the repeated usage of 'farm' and 'pet' doctrine. The idea that people are pets or farm animals for others. It is used in many metaphors.

It requires an idea of one group to lead, and the rest as lesser forms of life. It is one way, only not the only way, that some people say things like 'they are not one of us' there are some that really think they are different then other people.

I could explain a few ways those traps are constructed, and there effects, but they been posted before.

I don't blame you, I don't say it was your intent to make that comment.


What part don't you understand.

My initials are RE. son of Al. So that makes me Real. It is something I posted after some people made comments about values of names. Since then been posting a few RE combination, mostly becuase there are people that never learned that a rose is a rose by any other name, and think that a noun defines things, and use such things in marketing. So using same systems around initials RE.

Like I said, you would have had to read all the posts.

So it makes Superman actors and Key-Anna Re-Eves name signifigant, when you start thinking a noun means something. In the same way you mentioning a treat, after I commented on a dog insult of superman, and not retreating, obviously was a prompt to REtreat wording.

So not sure what doesn't make sense.

Re
ha

Also explained in many videos.

"I Need a Hero", by Bonnie Tyler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCOPuGBg_W0#t=00m04s

Streets of Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJGo2rvfSuA
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:58 PM
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11. Got a few more of them.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 05:59 PM by RandomThoughts
For instance, Random Thoughts is RT.

And my Dad's name was Albert, so Al be RT, also why me, RE, and Al be RT works as Real also.

:) there are thousands of those, but they can get a person a bit flaky, LOL.

And if you actually get into the Nouns as used as descriptors, or hacks to the 'string table of existence' then it gets really funky.


Or Robert, Robe RT.

Many other things with words that match up. The hero song, has due, do, or dew. in the song. The song also has ewe ewe ewe, for sheep side, other songs I like have law law law in them.

Then there is this song, and explains music as language, find any really popular song or story and you can find stuff in it.

Doe RE me,

Which is a long story.


And really like Gandalf hair on lady in this clip, and the 'found the gold dance'

Sound of Music | Central Station Antwerp (Belgium)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:02 AM
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3. The Koch brothers are so afraid of socialism that they are pushing
the country to the brink of disaster rather than take care of the needy. This is not the first time this has happened. The German people were so afraid of the Bolsheviks that they were willing to let a dictator and his corporations have absolute rule. Their experiment ended in disaster for Germany. The German's of today would laugh at the ideas back then. Koch and others like him are not the old republican party that I remember but instead they are the John Burch Society in high gear. They actually think that destroying the government is a good thing so that they can replace it with one that is made in their image - corporate rule because Daddy Warbucks knows best.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:25 AM
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6. They wouldnt be crashing just the US economy
They would crash the world economy. On the plus side, it would be the end of the GOP.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:57 PM
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10. What they don't get is that if they shut it down our credit will never restore itself
They think they can shut it down for a few days or maybe even a few weeks to make their Political point. They know what the world-wide reaction will be, but they believe that as soon as the Democrats cave on social issues and they restore a budget that things will quickly go 'back to normal'. They do not understand that once that trust in the US dollar is lost it will never return. You want to see horror on a Republican's eyes, tell them that a Government shutdown will invariable lead to international oil, priced in Euros.
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