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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:27 PM
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AZ: Brewer vetoes Birther and Guns on Campus bills. Dare I say she isn't as bad as I thought...
To everyone's shock, Brewer has vetoed too major bills: the Birther Bill and the "Guns On Campus" bill. What is the meaning of this?

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On Monday night, Hildy Saizow, President of Arizonans for Gun Safety, received very surprising news: Gov. Jan Brewer (R) had vetoed SB 1467, a bill that would have allowed guns outside on college campuses.

“I was totally shocked,” said Saizow. “Particularly here in Arizona, this is a very rare victory.”

The abrupt end of Arizona’s bill caught even the most hopeful gun-control advocates off guard. Brewer has been a strong gun-rights figure, a National Rifle Association-rated “A+” candidate who has happily signed bills that eliminated concealed carry permits and allowed guns inside bars, restaurants and privately owned parking lots. But even in Arizona, the state with the most lenient gun laws in the country, according to the Legal Community Against Violence’s rankings, the gun rights lobby can’t seem to break past the university’s hallowed walls.

The eleventh hour veto gives the Arizona scuffle a dramatic element, but the plot and the characters are hardly new. It’s a narrative that’s repeated itself more than 50 times in the past four years since the Virginia Tech shooting, in blue states and red states, and in all regions of the country. And the denouement is always the same: The gun rights coalition, accustomed to sweeping successes in other areas of gun legislation, always loses.

“Since the 2007 shooting, guns-on-campus legislation has failed 52 times in 28 states,” said Colin Goddard, who survived being shot four times at Virginia Tech, and now works as the assistant director for federal legislation for the Brady Campaign, the largest gun-control organization in the country.

Arizona marks failure 53. But at a time when guns-on-campus activists could be putting their tails -- or perhaps their rifles -- between their legs, they have a different, somewhat optimistic message.

“In four years, we’ve done a lot,” said Reid Smith, the Midwest Regional Director for Students for Concealed Carry, the leading guns-on-campus lobbying group, which boasts more than 40,000 members. “We need to move that political window a little bit, and we’re getting there. The lobbying stuff, we can only do that if the public accepts the idea.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/21/guns-on-campus_n_851814.html
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:32 PM
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1. Brewer is suddenly reasonable?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 04:15 PM
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7. Hell, no, she isn't. See what she DID sign below. nt
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:40 PM
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2. There's a significant percentage of DUers who thinks she's a bigot for the gun veto...
The DUers who overrun the guns forum and defend the Tea Party see it as "oppression." For many of them, it's a breakthrough; they've never criticized a Republican on DU before.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:48 PM
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5. Yes, but let's not hand out our dirty, stinky laundry for all to see.
;-)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:46 PM
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3. Oh, really? ? She's more than that bad, she just wants a chance at being Palinesque:
NEWS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 20, 2011
Statement on sine die of Arizona Legislature

Andrei Cherny, Arizona Democratic Party chairman, issued the following statement today:

"Mainstream and middle-class Arizonans can breathe a little easier now that the state Legislature is out of session. But it's a sad day for fringe extremists and corporate lobbyists who are seeing the close of the best Legislature they'll ever have.

"The Russell Pearce Republicans used their supermajority to kill jobs, maim education and slash public safety. They pulled the rug out from under the middle class while doing the bidding of corporate lobbyists. And they wasted precious time on birther bills, tea party license plates, and other useless legislation that appealed only to a small, extreme fringe group of the Republican Party.

"Today in Arizona, the Democratic Party is a 'big tent' where independents and fed-up Republicans can gather to work toward mainstream priorities: a stronger economy, safer streets and better schools. In 2012, Arizonans will hold the Russell Pearce Republicans accountable for what they've done to our great state.”

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Some highlights of bad legislation that passed this Legislature:

HB2177: Inspired by conspiracy theorists and fringe groups, the "birther bill" would have forced U.S. presidential candidates to provide Arizona officials with citizenship documentation in order to get on the Arizona ballot. Vetoed by governor.

SB1467: Would have allowed guns on university and community-college campuses. Vetoed by governor.

SB1402: Grants special license plate status for the Tea Party's "Don't Tread on Me" plate. Sent to governor.

SB1593: Would allow out-of-state companies to write health-insurance policies in Arizona. Would undermine state mandates that insurers must cover treatment for conditions like diabetes or autism. Sent to governor.

SB1326: Forces HOAs or condo associations to allow residents to fly the Gadsden flag, a symbol of the the Tea Party. Signed by governor.

SB1612: FY12 state budget cuts $500 million from AHCCCS and ignores a voter-approved initiative in 2000 that requires the state to provide a certain level of health care for the poor. Also cuts about $150 million from K-12 education, $198 million from university funding and $70 million from community-college system. Signed by governor.

SB1188: Grants special preference to married couples over same-sex couples for adoption. Signed by governor.

HB2001 (2nd Special Session): Corporate tax giveaway issues $538 million in tax cuts for businesses without any guarantee of job creation. Reduces corporate income taxes by 30 percent. Signed by governor.

HB2443: Prohibits abortion if the woman’s decision is based on the race or sex of the fetus, making this a Class 3 felony. (Note: The bill's author was found by the media and independent groups to have used faulty or nonexistent data as the premise for this bill. It has been called a "solution in search of a problem.") Signed by governor.

HB2416: Prohibits the use of telemedicine for women seeking abortions, placing yet another barrier to health care for women in rural communities. Signed by governor.

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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:59 PM
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6. +1
She's signed many more goofy bills than she has vetoed.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 03:47 PM
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4. She's as bad as we tjhought -- just not as bad as the teabaggers thought, and relied on.
;-)
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:01 PM
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8. Well...
I think she does what she is told to do by her handlers. I have seen her to many times get caught in really stupid comments that any normal person wouldn't have said, and when that happens they rush her off as fast as they can before she can speak again! I seriously think she has some form of dementia and doesn't really know what is going on most of the time. She can read a statement off of a script provided for her, but on her own she doesn't do well at all! Those around her control what she does, and someone with a little more sense than most must have seen just how crazy this birth certificate bill would have been and so they had her veto it!
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:13 PM
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9. She suffers from early Alzheimer's, IMO.
She needs to retire, like, yesterday.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 07:39 PM
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10. Thanks to those who caught on to my tongue-n-cheek post.
Nevertheless, let's see how far she gets. The legislature will attempt to override her vetoes.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 07:41 PM
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11. they may very well succeed. If you don't live here, you simply cannot
appreciate the level of wacky here.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 07:47 PM
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12. I think the RNC is reigning in their established Republicans
to get ready for 2012. Probably threatening to withhold RNC support if they continue to be so bat-shitty.

The RNC has seen the writing on the wall that bat-shitty isn't winning over too many voters.

:hi:
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