Health care executive slain in S. Charlotte

[JanMichael]

Expensive neighborhood-


A respected health care executive walking home from a nearby business was gunned down Friday morning on a residential street in a quiet south Charlotte neighborhood.

The shooting happened around 10:15 a.m. in the 4500 block of Mullens Ford Road, off Carmel Road, not far from Charlotte Country Day School.




http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/04/22/2242265/police-probe-south-charlotte-shooting.html

[GKirk]

1. respected health care executive

is that like 'honest politician'? :)

[JanMichael]

3. I think this type of violent crime is going to increase

all those neighborhoods that people have felt "safe" in are going to be targets now that so many people's safety nets are gone.

It's incredibly sad what is happening to the country.

[iwishiwas]

5. yes, I think you are right. It will no longer just be

an occasional "disgruntled" ex employee.

[NightWatcher]

2. curious to see if the shooter had a history of having claims denied

if so, I'd hope to sit on the jury

[JanMichael]

4. I don't agree with that, but I thought it was interesting

that the "suspect" was just someone seen running from the scene. I wondered if it was someone that had a health care problem, and the "suspect" just happened to be at the wrong place, wrong time. I think any reasonable person would run from a violent crime--

[90-percent]

6. hmmm

I reserve judgement on this until we all find out more details.

It is a man's life, after all.

Random violent crime or the beginnings of the peasant uprising?

Either way, desperate people with nothing left to loose are capable of acts such as these.

-90% Jimmy

[JanMichael]

7. I am not trying to judge

My first thought was just "this is going to increase."

[90-percent]

17. Not trying to judge either

I am not criticizing you.

The baser part of me really wants these fuckers to get it.

But I'm against the law of the jungle and vigilantism.

BUT......................

A friend in town was talking to me about the Depression. He's a very smart economist, telling me some history I haven't heard before. About kidnappings of wealthy children in the depression, which was a lot more common than was made public. And the Lindbergh kidnapping has a lot more about it that most of us don't know about.

the powers that be work in mysterious ways.

But, as Pro lifers delight in the murder of abortion doctors, I do not want to delight in the murder of the greedy sociopaths that are wrecking the world and the possibility of happiness.

I would simply like to see equal justice applied to what these fuckers do.

And that has not been working out very well, now has it?

-90% Jimmy

[JanMichael]

23. interesting, I would love to know more about the conversation with your friend

This article caught my attention because of the seeming? uptick of more violent crimes (haven't looked at the stats, just reading the news) in that particular neighborhood. I am just wondering if the wealthy, or the people who simply have some of the perceived trappings of wealth (nice car, watch, purses, jewelry, etc) are going to look more and more like targets to the people who are getting the most desperate.

I personally think we are reaching that point now. So sad that those on the Right can't make the connection between "I don't want to pay taxes," and crime.

[Raksha]

28. I am not going to say what I'm thinking, but I suspect I'm not alone.

Re "It is a man's life, after all.

Random violent crime or the beginnings of the peasant uprising?"

[TorchTheWitch]

8. is this North or South Carolina?

There's a Charlotte in both states. It really bugs me when online local papers don't bother to mention anywhere what damn state they're in.

[JanMichael]

10. North

nt

[TorchTheWitch]

16. Thanks much

That area is my dream retirement area (in this country anyway). So beautiful there.

[JanMichael]

24. it really is

My top choices would be Asheville, Greeneville, SC, or Chapel Hill/Carrboro areas-- although I prefer Western to Eastern NC-

[XanaDUer]

29. Oh, it's beautiful here

Just moved here about three months ago for a new job (from GA).

Love it, and we want as many progressives here as we can get!

[MedleyMisty]

26. *hugs*

Born and bred here - well, grew up in the rural northwestern part near the Virginia border - but yes. I love my state. It is beautiful and good, and the great majority of the people I have known in my life here are good and decent.

There's a reason why it's my avatar and why I rage at regional bigots. ;)

Of course, I should add the caveat that I'm working class and I don't know any rich people.

[xchrom]

9. i don't know -- but my first thought was some one whose claims had been denied.

but it could be a mugging gone horribly wrong.

[aquart]

11. But first let's talk to his wife.

[MineralMan]

12. I suggest that we do not jump to conclusions here.

A man is dead. We do not know why he was shot. We do not know who shot him. We do not know the reasons for the shooting.

Waiting until we know some of those things seems to me to be a good idea. Reading the entire article, I can think of more that one alternative motive for this crime.

[JanMichael]

13. Not jumping to conclusions.

I was considering the correlation between crime, and the loss of socioeconomic safety nets in the US.

[MineralMan]

14. I know. I was addressing some of the responders to the thread.

The theories about motive are premature.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

15. I suggest that you keep your advice to yourself

It's a discussion board. We're discussing. This in no way requires your permission. Clear?

[MineralMan]

18. Oh....wait...I made a suggestion.

I did not tell you what to do or what not to do. Please do not take my suggestions as orders. You may do as you please. It pleased me to suggest that we not jump to conclusions. That was my part of the discussion. It's interesting that your contribution to the discussion was to criticize mine. Did you have any remarks about the events described in the original post?

I hope that clarifies your understanding of my post.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

19. I have no further comment at this time, and stand by my earlier point n/t

.

[MineralMan]

20. Well, then, thank you for your suggestion.

I believe I will ignore it and post whatever replies to discussions I choose.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. How ironic...

He doesn't need YOUR permission to post what he posted either.

Clear?

[MineralMan]

22. Irony is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

25. thank you

have a nice day

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. Why, you're quite welcome... and you do the same! n/t

[white_wolf]

27. I feel sorry for the guy's family, but on the other hand

how many others have lost loved ones because he denied claims so he could make his fortune?

[MineralMan]

30. I don't know. Do you?

I don't even know that he ever personally denied a claim. I only know that he worked at that company. There's so much we don't know about this incident, isn't there?

[MineralMan]

31. Just for information: Carolinas Health Care

is not a health insurance company. It's a company that owns hospitals.

Here's an interesting tidbit from their website:

"Summary of Financial Assistance Policy

Carolinas Medical Center provides high quality medical care to all patients, regardless of their ability to pay. Carolinas Medical Center provides an automatic discount to all uninsured patients, regardless of their ability to pay.

Carolinas Medical Center provides 100 percent write-off on current medical bills for patients whose household income is less than 200 percent of the Federal Poverty Guideline and equity ownership of property of less then $150,000.

For patients who do not qualify for a full 100 percent write-off on their bill our financial counselors are available to help determine potential opportunities for partial assistance with catastrophic medical bills.

Upon approval for Financial Assistance, other current accounts and future accounts will be eligible for the same level of assistance, for a period of 90 days from the date of approval.

Carolinas Medical Center provides a variety of payment options, including online payments and long-term payment plans."

http://www.carolinashealthcare.org/


Don't they sound just horrible? Folks, we need to stop and think before we post. There are some posts in this thread that demonstrate that nobody even bothered to check this out.

[onethatcares]

32. that's an interesting way for hospitals to be

and I applaud their efforts.

It's a whole lot different than Columbia HCA and its previous ceos way of doing things.

[MineralMan]

33. Other than their stated policy, I know nothing about the

organization. It's not a health insurance company, though. That I do know.

[JanMichael]

34. MM, perhaps I should tell you that my wife is not only from the area

she grew up in the neighborhood in question.

The information you provided on their website is "questionable."

Let's keep the focus of this thread on socio-economic conditions and crimes. So far, you have tried to change to focus to "conspiracy" and or "jumping to conclusions," and now you are defending the corporation where the man worked.

That is NOT the intent, nor focus of the discussion I had hoped for.

I assure you that we are familiar with the area in question, and the company.

[WinkyDink]

35. 1. An executive was walking? 2. A hit. 3. The wife. Lennie Briscoe would have this wrapped up.