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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 05:23 PM
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Duffy/Ryan: It’s not a voucher, it’s “Premium Support” (Riiiiiight)--Repugs and word games....



Duffy (Repug/Tea Party) got elected to replace Dave Obey in Northern WI.
He LIES a lot--playing his word games. But an educated constituent set him straight. Hear the video below.

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/22/town-hall-sean-duffy-medicare/

CONSTITUENT: I hear you saying two contradictory things about taxes. One you want to reform the tax code so that corporations to pay more, and two you don’t want corporations to pay so much so that they’ll somehow stimulate business. So I don’t understand that contradiction. The CBO <…> the Ryan program proposes to turn Medicare into a voucher program.

DUFFY: It doesn’t, No it doesn’t.

DIFFERENT CONSTITUENT: Yes it does.

DUFFY: No, it doesn’t there’s no voucher.

CONSTITUENT: That’s what my understanding of what it is.

DUFFY: No.

CONSTITUENT: They count the cost to seniors if it goes into a voucher program, it’s going to be trillions of dollars for those young men like this guy in front.

DUFFY: It’s a premium support it’s not a voucher. The bottom line is if we do nothing, if we do nothing, you can all say this is all fine and dandy, you can get it and I know any young people here you can all get this program.............more...........




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http://wisconsinlibertyproject.com/?p=62

Duffy/Ryan: It’s not a voucher, it’s “Premium Support” (Riiiiiight)
Posted by Blog Boss on April 22nd, 2011

Congressman Sean Duffy is getting an earful at town hall meetings this week over his vote to end Medicare, a notion not sitting well with someone age 54 who just lost the promise of retirement health care security that they’ve been promised for four decades in the labor force. In this clip from Tuesday, a constituent calls him out for refusing to acknowledge Medicare would become a voucher program under the Paul Ryan 2012 Budget Plan he voted for this month. Duffy calls it “premium support.”

WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SrzTu6fK0mk

Brookings’ Henry Aaron is one of Washington’s most respected social policy experts. He’s served as a Social Security trustee, vice president of the American Economic Association and much more. It was Aaron, alongside the Urban Institute’s Bob Reischauer, who coined the term “premium support” to describe a model in which you’d open Medicare to competition but install certain safeguards to protect beneficiaries from cost shifting. Now, Paul Ryan has adopted that model and included it in his budget. There’s only one problem, according to Aaron. Ryan may be calling his reforms “premium support,” but that’s not what they are.

Ezra Klein: I think a lot of us have been confused by Paul Ryan’s insistence that his Medicare plan be called “premium support” rather than vouchers. It looks like vouchers. The Congressional Budget Office thought it was vouchers. So what’s the truth here?

Henry Aaron: Me and Bob Reischauer jointly created the idea of “premium-support” in the mid-1990s. It was a response to what we saw as legitimate criticisms of using market forces to rein in the growth of federal health spending. The worry was the reliable savings would come from shifting costs onto patients. The savings from competition were just something we hoped would show up. So the key element was linking the amount that individuals receive to the growth of health-care spending, not to some other index that would grow less rapidly than health-care costs. The other two elements were aggressive regulation of health-care insurance offerings to prevent insurers from overwhelming people’s capacities to sift alternative plans and risk adjustment...........................


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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 05:44 PM
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1. Whatever you call it, we will end up paying or dying because we can't pay...
It's that simple.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:19 PM
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2. "Premium support" for what??
For Medicare?

NO!

Because they will no longer be in Medicare.

It's a voucher, pure and simple.

Lying stacks of shit!
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:28 PM
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3. Bam - yes. n/t.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:41 PM
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4. you ae right. It will no longer be Medicare as we know it.
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Rectangle Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:50 PM
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5. It will be "Premium Support" alright-- for the "Ultra-Wealthy!!
As Always!!
:eyes:
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