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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:40 PM Original message |
If the President declares someone guilty of a crime, |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama doesn't care about the US Constitution. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Which is odd in that he claimed to be a constitutional law scholar. 'Aren't we all?' would be my |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. President Obama Makes a Fair Trial of Bradley Manning Impossible By Declaring Him Guilty |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I participated in a FireDogLake webinar conference call this evening on Manning. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Thanks for doing this, if you can post. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Khamenei giving his opinion that "an Iranian military whistle blower" |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. That would be a serious tainting of the pool. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It's not only a matter of a jury pool. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. That's what' so disturbing about him speaking out like this. Surely he should have known |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I'm wondering what if any repercussions will come from it? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Doesn't seem to be much concern ...except on the |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. I'm not sure they could use this against him. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Maybe the 11th Dimension Chess Player wanted to throw the |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That could be it...but, still, why would he put himself out there on the "record" saying that? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It's actually a Machiavellian move befitting Machiavelli himself. Consider this: |
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BadGimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. ahhh |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. Are you saying nobody knew what Obama's position |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. The abuse of Bradley Manning and the stalking of Julian Assange |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 07:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. I don't believe that was a claim in my op. My op was centered |
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Sky Masterson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. Whatever |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I guess you weren't around |
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Sky Masterson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Manson never actually killed anyone |
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Sonoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Nor did he encourage same. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I more concerned on the repercussions of tossing away all legal |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. An internet thread is making me support Manning less!!!!11 |
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Sky Masterson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. No |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Which folks? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Who gives a crap about who you're sympathic towards? |
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Sky Masterson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Who gives a crap about a whistleblowing traitor |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Obviously you believe we should just skip any trial and hang him |
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Sky Masterson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I don't believe that at all. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. I really can't believe the backs that are turning on Manning all because |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. Oh, sure, sure he can |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
19. "can that person receive a fair trial in the US, either military or civilian?" |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Do rules of the trial take into account matters such as mistreatment |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. That would be approached |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Thanks for your reply. I was told a complaint was filed. |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I'm not well versed with 138 complaints, but |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Then it will probably go to an appeals process based on what I |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. "Do rules of the trial take into account matters such as mistreatment..." |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 04:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I was wondering because the mistreatment has upset |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. Can the average American even name the SOS? |
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NavyDem (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I think that might be irrelevant. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Doh! You're right; I'm wrong. nt |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
41. Well there is one example of this happening. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Thanks. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
43. 1) Yes. 2) No. 3) Huh? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Basically if there is pretrial damage to the rights of the accused, |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes, it will. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
44. It does seem like that would prejudice the jury |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
46. Not really. Another huge fail from a Harvard lawyer. |
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