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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:56 AM
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Pepe Escobar, Asia Times: Gaddafi is the perfect villain for this Anglo-French-American farce

AfPak comes to Africa
By Pepe Escobar

Gaddafi is the perfect villain for this Anglo-French-American farce unworthy of French playwright Georges Feydeau. For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world. (Now ain't that the truth Pepe?)

Breaking up Libya would be just the hors d'oeuvres for breaking up other parts of Africa where China has sizable investments. Yes, because if Western boots hit the ground in northern Africa, the "footprint" will reach the Sahel - which is already in turbulence; Mali and Niger are receiving weapons from the "rebels" in Libya that are ending up in the hands of al-Qaeda in the Maghreb (AQIM). The powers that be in Algeria and Morocco - where pro-democracy protests continue non-stop - are already freaking out.

All these variables should be kept on close watch. For the moment, this spring's humanitarian blockbuster has got to be The Drones of Libya - another Pentagon/White House/State Department co-production straight out of Hollywood, sorry, Creech Air Force Base in Nevada.

Bring on the humanitarian drones
Why haven't they thought about this before; an army of drones (only five for the moment, based in southern Italy) instead of boots on the ground. Pentagon chief Robert Gates actually claimed the drones will strike Libya for "humanitarian reasons" (any hint of irony was as invisible as a drone camera). Gates had already misled the US Congress a few weeks ago, saying that the US role in Libya would end once NATO was in command.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html


And when all is said and done, I see my sig line is still relevant.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:17 AM
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1. Yeah, all hail Gaddafi, the great humanitarian.
Reminds me of when a tiny few here supported Milosevic since he was a good Communist and all.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:46 AM
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6. I don't support Gaddafi,
but I know your government is bullshitting you big time (just like they have on previous occasions e.g. Gulf of Tonkin, Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators) when they try to make out that they are assisting the rebel movement because the rebels are a bunch of democratic thinking freedom fighters who spontaneously, without outside intervention, armed themselves and initiated and armed revolt against Gaddafi. That's much the same horseshit as was flying out of the Whitehouse about the noble "Afghan freedom fighters" under previous administrations. The Afghan freedom fighters were funded, organized and assisted by the US (even before the USSR had invaded Afghanistan) purposely to destabilize the secular Afghan government and, even more importantly, its allies and backers the Soviet Union. You can bet the situation is much the same today, this time the ultimate target probably being China in place of the USSR. The rebels are just the pawns to be sacrificed in the great game.


The Pentagon agenda
As far as the Pentagon is concerned, Gaddafi is a serious nuisance. He's blocking the ''progress'' of Africom; he's in charge of a strategic stretch of the Mediterranean; and he's made deals with China. As a nationalist with a pan-African streak, allowing China access to the Mediterranean, he's the ultimate scourge of Africom's agenda of militarizing Africa for American benefit. So he has to be at least isolated.

But the fall of Gaddafi is not a priority. The Pentagon would rather deal - or not deal - with a cornered Gaddafi in an impoverished Tripolitania than face a powerful, unified Libya that in the future might stand up again against Western imperialist designs. The Pentagon ''votes'' for balkanization.

SNIP

The Pentagon / NATO / Africom agenda is and will always remain the same. To prevent real emancipation of the Arab world. To prevent real emancipation and unity of Africa. For all his serious flaws as a ruler, Gaddafi was a bad example. With the ghastly IMF blackmailing poor African countries, Gaddafi instead financed African development projects.

This is not only about Libya - far from it. This is the message of the ruling elites in Washington - and their satrapies in London and Paris - for Africa. We're going flat out for the military subjugation of Africa, and for the control of Africa's natural resources. Keep doing deals with China, and this is what you get. With NATO as global Robocop, nothing can stop us - with or without regime change, but always under the cover of farce.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD20Ak02.html

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:59 AM
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9. I was following events in real time thanks to the Libya threads
It started out with peaceful protests, encouraged by the successful revolts in Tunisia and Egypt. They only resorted to arms when Gaddafi's forces started mowing them all down in the street. To dismiss them as western puppets is disgusting. People across the arab world are getting fed up with being ruled by autocrats and despots and are rising up against them, and some people on the left think it's all some big western conspiracy. Ridiculous.

I'm supposed to feel pity for poor Gaddafi because he used his oil wealth to buy influence in the region full of rulers like Gaddafi (while enriching his family and cronies with many many billions)? I'm supposed to dismiss the terror and bloodshed Gaddafi has unleashed upon entire cities of people for daring to question his rule?

What a pathetic bunch of bullshit.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:46 AM
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10. So the US was so concerned about the deaths of peaceful protesters
it just had to intervene, unlike Bahrain which has compliant US toady/sock puppets running the show who are not inclined to set a bad example by trying to remain independent of the US empire.

It was also for a long time the official story that the US only went into Afghanistan with financing and support for the fundamentalist, Muslim "freedom fighters" after the USSR had invaded to put down these same noble freedom fighters. That was until Zbignew Brzezinski spilled the beans and acknowledged years later that, acting upon his advice, the US had been arming and funding the "freedom fighters" before the Soviet invasion with the express intent of drawing the Soviet Union into a quagmire. I wonder what we will find out about the sources of this Libyan revolution if/when it all comes out in the wash a few years down the road.

In the meantime when the mainstream media presents an issue like this as the US/Nato white-hatted cavalry riding to the aid of the oppressed freedom lovers (like we haven't seen that song and dance routine before), and the situation is supposedly so cut and dried, i.e. evil vs. good, you can almost bet there is much more to the story that will NEVER make it to air on the corporate, mainstream media.


The War in Libya: Race, "Humanitarianism," and the Media

By Maximilian Forte

April 24, 2011 "Information Clearing House" -- Firing for Media Effect: Setting the "African" Agenda

"We left behind our friends from Chad. We left behind their bodies. We had 70 or 80 people from Chad working for our company. They cut them dead with pruning shears and axes, attacking them, saying you're providing troops for Gadhafi. The Sudanese, the Chadians were massacred. We saw it ourselves." (A Turkish oilfield worker who fled Libya, speaking to the BBC and quoted in NPR's "In Libya, African Migrants Say They Face Hostility," 25 February 2011)

"I am a worker, not a fighter. They took me from my house and my wife," he said, gesturing with his hands. Before he could say much more, a pair of guards told him to shut up and hustled him through the steel doors of a cell block, which quickly slammed behind them. Several reporters protested and the man was eventually brought back out. He spoke in broken, heavily accented English and it was hard to hear and understand him amid the scrum of scribes pushing closer. He said his name was Alfusainey Kambi, and again professed innocence before being confronted by an opposition official, who produced two Gambian passports. One was old and tattered and the other new. And for some reason, the official said the documents were proof positive that Kambi was a Kadafi operative. . . . All I know is that the Geneva Convention explicitly prohibits prisoners of war from being paraded and questioned before cameras of any kind. But that's exactly what happened today. The whole incident just gave me a really bad vibe, and thank God it finally ended . . . . Our interpreter, a Libyan national, asked (LA Times reported David) Zucchino: "So what do you think? Should we just go ahead and kill them?" (Luis Sinco, "Journalists Visit Prisoners Held by Rebels in Libya," Los Angeles Times, 23 March 2011)


To what extent is the revolt in Libya a continuation of earlier race riots against the presence of migrant workers from Sub-Saharan Africa? Where do members of the Gaddafi regime, some of whom were apparently responsible for setting security forces against those migrants, fit in with the current rebel leadership? How does the calculated cultivation of racial fear and racially selective xenophobia tie in with calls for foreign military ("humanitarian") intervention? How might intervening powers be providing cover for another massacre, one that is color-coded and rendered invisible? How do the mass media, social media, and government pronouncements from NATO members feed off each other? When both sides in a war have killed civilians, by what definition of "humanitarianism" do we intercede on one side in an armed conflict?

SNIP

The Liberal Democratic Ideal" of R2P (Responsibility to Protect)?

The liberal democratic ideal of R2P can be so easily raped by cynical manipulations that it has become pregnant with irony after irony, resulting in miscarriage. This is the Libyan war's biggest ideological victim. It will be impossible for R2P advocates, who labored to produce stories of "genocide" in Libya, while turning a blind eye to reports of atrocities against civilians from Sub-Saharan Africa, to ever again invoke their doctrine without facing even greater hostility from those who will learn the lessons of the current debacle. As 24 "human rights groups" jointly invoked R2P and called for foreign intervention, not one of them mentioned, even once, the plight of African migrant workers targeted and killed by the Libyan opposition. Even if one rejects every single other argument made against "humanitarian intervention" in Libya, this fact alone, this racial blindness that effectively places Africans beyond the scope of "human rights," is a damning enough indictment by itself.

We have been repeatedly instructed that the opposition leadership consists of "academics, lawyers, businessmen, professionals" and because of this list of members of an elite class it seems that the assumption is that "we" not only actually know something about what these people stand for, but because merely of their membership in a professional club "we" should sympathize with them. Yet, it is also a way of getting us to think white -- these are not "rag tag" black migrants and mercenaries, these are the respectable people, the forces of progress, deserving of human rights . . . as much as they deny them to others, as much as we ignore these others except as bearers of evil.

Maximilian Forte is a professor of anthropology at Concordia University in Montreal, Canada, specializing in political anthropology, media ethnographies, and the new imperialism.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27957.htm
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:43 AM
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13. It's a popular uprising
The West is going to back the factions to pursue their own goals, but that doesn't mean the rebels are puppets or stooges of western interests. If the west was behind this there wouldn't be protesters in Bahrain, or Egypt, or any other country we have strong alliances with. This conspiracy bullshit coming from self-proclaimed leftists is sickening. If you aren't on the side of the people against the corrupt and powerful you have you business slinging about leftist rhetoric. To dismiss these mass popular uprisings with slander about Al-Qaeda or Islamic rule or whatever bullshit pops into some left-wing pundits head is shameful.
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:23 PM
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19. Nothing is wrong with factional opposition. It is the external intervention that is expanding the
destruction and killing
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:47 AM
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8. You don't need to like the other guy to acknowledge the real reasons
we are involving ourselves there.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:55 AM
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11. Were you in favor of killing him last December when the US
was falling all over itself to give him weapons and everything else he asked for? When top US officials were posing with him or photos, including the President because it was good for business corps doing business in Libya and they wanted to 'improve his image'?

Do you know that we are currently supporting some of the world's worst dictators, such as Karamov in Uzbekistan who make Qadaffi look positively progressive?

So, considering all the very, very bad guys around the world, (check Yemen, Bahrain and Syria eg) why do you suppose we are involved in Libya where it appears a majority of Libyans are happy with Qadaffi? :eyes:

To quote an infamous former US president 'fool me once, yer never gonna fool me agin'! That's the way I feel about it. We are planning on another Iraq, well, the PNAC crowd are and that's one good reason to watch out.
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Gravel Democrat Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:29 PM
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20. Kosovo was a PNAC plan


http://newamericancentury.org/balkans.htm


and look! There's a US Base *still there*. Imagine that, (after the farce of Rambouillet- see appendix b) 78 days of "humanitarian bombing", Milosovic dead in prison and there's a 1000 acre base lingering on like cheap aftershave.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_25RWm7Cm9IM/R7wuXXwKeFI/AAAAAAAAAO4/luVOhZyzB48/s400/Picture+1.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel

see, the base (and "removing" Milosovic because he wanted to stay independent) was the goal.

Don’t Forget Yugoslavia By John Pilger
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/dont-forget-yugoslavia-by-john-pilger


Backing up Globalization with Military Might
New World Order Onslaught by Karen Talbot
Covert Action Quarterly, Issue 68, Fall 1999

"The U.S. and its NATO underlings undoubtedly will be vastly emboldened by their "success" in ensconcing themselves in Kosovo, Bosnia and the other remnants of Yugoslavia—Croatia, Slovenia and Macedonia. We can expect rapid steps to further fragment the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY). We can also expect the new mission of nuclear-armed NATO — intervening over so-called "humanitarian concerns" against sovereign nations—to be implemented elsewhere, with great speed, especially in the Caspian Sea/Caucuses areas of the former Soviet Union...

the best analysis available:
http://www.globalissues.org/article/448/backing-up-globalization-with-military-might

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:18 AM
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2. But there will be lots of debts when the imperialists
are finished raping Libya.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:25 AM
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3. Just another bogeyman trotted out by the neocons/neolibs/MIC.
They really should just have an inflatable model they can bring out and scare the public with. Then they can just inflate it until to whatever dimension correspond to the amount of the "defense" budget they desire.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:27 AM
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4. k&r
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:38 AM
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5. It is awfully suspect that MG the "terrorist" was a good guy not too long ago.
Considering he was a "terrorist" in the eighties.

Let see, whoe else was a terrorist in the eighties, oh yeah, the United States was. The biggest terrorist in the world has always been the United States and we never stopped.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:47 AM
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7. Death to the Libyan Rebels!
Running dogs of Imperialists!
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:20 PM
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14. Can we just have a ceasefire and Internationally Supervised ELECTIONS
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:47 PM
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17. Woulda made sense to do that BEFORE taking sides.
Then there wouldn't be all those profits for War Inc.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:04 AM
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12. Of course. We bomb them silly, and then generously offer "loans" so they can rebuild.
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 11:04 AM by Xithras
I have no doube that the Libyan rebels genuinely want a free country.

I also have no doubt that, in the list of reasons why our leaders were so eager to go to war, humanitarianism doesn't even make the top 10.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:29 PM
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15. You CAN fool some of the people ALL of the time.

If you're not FOR the New WAR in Libya,
you're WITH The Communists AlQaeda The Terrorists Saddam Qaddafi!!!

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:45 PM
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16. If Pepe Escobar say it,it must be true.
nt
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:59 PM
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18. kr

Demonization of Gaddafi (who is downright progressive compared to some of the dictators "we" support) is absolutely neo-Orwellian, btw.

Some absolutely classic stuff there, guys.
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