What happens when the Money is all gone....?

[FirstLight]

:rant:

So if gas is projected to hit $6+ this summer, and budget cuts continue to disembowel the safety net that more & more rely on, and houses and businesses continue to stand empty... what's next?
Really, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
HOW BAD DOES IT HAVE TO GET!!!!?

I have never seen the amount of empty businesses and homes that I do today. I see friends who have sold their cars because they cant afford to put gas in them, and aren't getting the hours at work to even break even. (and we're talking Mcdonalds and kmart jobs - for college grads)

This spiral is out of control, and feels like a huge black hole pulling me into it's event horizon. Where is the change? where is the accountability? Why is my bank telling me i have a balance (enough to buy $5 of gas) and then charging me for overdraft fees *after* enough money is put in to cover...? because they CAN.

I am scared, really scared. Wondering if growing a garden will even help us at this rate (can canning help us survive the winter? will we have enough firewood?). wonder how long it would be before my own HUD housing help evaporates and we are on the street. Thinking about the increase in gas and the domino effect of food costs, and the fact that i live in a tourism economy and it is going to get even worse...no hope for finding a job anytime soon, been unemployed for 2+ years, even went to school and re-trained...and it makes no difference.
:wtf:

I am sick of reading the headlines, hearing about trump and bullshit distractions when survival is MY reality and that of SO MANY others.
I am angry and disheartened and want to just give up...but i don't know how to do that. Yet according to those who are in the top 3%, i have already given up because I am a loser on welfare...

:rant:

[baldguy]

1. The banks start selling your blood & internal organs to cover your debts.

[FirstLight]

2. tell me you forgot the 'sarcasm'

cuz that is soooooo not funny!

[davidwparker]

16. I think :sarcasm: was implied. n/t

[WhiteTara]

20. I don't think they meant to be funny

this isn't funny. And, I see them trying to sell blood. They are mafia owned, those banks.

[Motown_Johnny]

4. will there be a market for that once the 1% buys all they need/want ?

[leftstreet]

3. How did 3% of us wind up with all the money?

Whatever that system is, sounds like it needs to go

[FirstLight]

7. tell that to the bankers, congress, etc...

it was supposed to be fixed when we voted for "Change"
ya, right...and now i am scraping change for gas to drive my kids to school...

[RKP5637]

11. Here's something to take a look at ... I've not watched the

whole thing, but from what I've watched so far it's very very very interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzULm4d8h8w

[RKP5637]

9. Legalized corruption and the crooks in past years found legit business is

more profitable and you have the complete backing of bought and paid for politicians en mass and it's all perfectly legal. The system is fully gamed. Most citizens don't stand even the most remote chance of being a player.

[girl gone mad]

5. This is what people need to be concerned about,

not deficits, debt and inflation.

The unemployment crisis is the real burden that we are passing on to our children and grandchildren. They can easily manage fiat currency debts, if given an opportunity to earn a decent living.

[FirstLight]

10. it's bigger than unemployment even...

unequal distribution of wealth - isn't that what brings down most empires?

[RKP5637]

13. Yes, IMO, and that's exactly the path we are on because the foundation that

made this country great is rotting and what remains is being taken apart plank by plank. It is going to happen and any not seeing this have their heads up their butts. Eventually the populace won't give a F and it will be contagious. This country is it's own worst enemy.

This is a pretty interesting film IMO. I've not watched it all, but IMO it certainly is answering for me my questions of WTF and why is change not happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzULm4d8h8w

[imagineUtopia]

6. :(

its over. I'm in KY with all the same job and money issues, AND my house floods with raw sewage from the city's system, and they basically tell me, sorry. can't do much to help. we'll send our lowest bidder cleaning crew out. Meanwhile twice in a year my office has been completely whiped out by the poo water.

www.lexingtonsewage.com

[mdmc]

28. welcome to du

[TheCanadianLiberal]

8. When the money is gone...

We die, unless we are able to feed and provide for ourselves, both of which I can do.

[FirstLight]

12. F-in scary...

but true...i guess.

that's why I am just hanging on by a thread and hoping we will survive this mess. or maybe something big will happen and we can just go quickly...starvation doesn;t sound very fun

[Curmudgeoness]

14. I am glad that you don't know how to give up.

I am sorry for all the problems you are having, and I really worry about everyone who is out of work in this mess of an economy. When enough people are disheartened enough, and have no hope, that 3% will have to start worrying themselves. You cannot take every reason for people to be alive from them, and not have repercusions. I don't know how they don't get it.

[FirstLight]

17. isn't that the rub?

such a strange thing for us to be so beaten down and still keep TRYING

but honestly, I think if things went awry and we were marching with torches & pitchforks, it isn;t such a stretch to join in when one has nothing to lose

[RKP5637]

25. And they will mow you down. The technology exists today to suppress

people more than ever. Just sonic waves would flatten hoards of people.

[Curmudgeoness]

32. This may be true, but read "nothing to lose".

If you have people who believe they have nothing left to lose, they do not fear being mowed down.

And I have no doubt that our government would suppress the people, if they could. But they will also be worried about appearances, so I am not sure about the mowing them down part. The thing is, the 3% are not the ones with these technologies and weapons in their hands. If they go too far, they will have the military population turning against them too. Although service members are very dedicated, there is a point beyond which they will not go. Attacking millions of citizens of their own country could be that point.

But that doesn't matter, "nothing to lose" is very very dangerous. I fear for a time when too many people are in this position.

[RKP5637]

33. Yeah, I have similar feelings. " ... nothing to lose is very very dangerous. I fear for a time

when too many people are in this position."

Wasn't there some kind of agreement going around sometime ago that police forces were joining some group that refused to attack citizens en mass ...

I agree on our military in this country. I think they would rebel if the crazies ever got into office and went too far.

[davidwparker]

18. Malloy's 4th box n/t

[RKP5637]

23. That 3% is insular. They will fortify themselves against the majority of the

population. They know what they are doing. It reminds me of medieval times. The peasants weren't that effective against TPTB. What we have today is the gov. often meshed with the needs/dictates of this 3%.

The way the gov. works today money dictates power and the rest of us are under the bleachers. Combined with this we have a really dumbed down populace. With everything going on in this country many citizens still can't bother themselves to pay attention. And the propaganda, misinformation and absolute BS runs wide and deep, and on top of this we have some absolutely loony politicians running around.

[Canuckistanian]

15. You KNOW where the money is

It's in the hands of the 1%, concentrated in the rarified air of the 0.1% who control practically everything.

America isn't broke. It STILL controls the world.

[louslobbs]

19. Wow, I actually felt the fear in your op, thanks for sharing that and I hope that things get better

for you although I don't know how unless all of this madness stops. This really effects me, when I hear these real life stories about what others are suffering just to survive. You are no loser by any means, the only losers are those that forced you into the situation you are now dealing with. I don't pray anymore, but I will def keep you in my thoughts.
Lou

[FirstLight]

22. thanks for the compassion

Its hard for me to take in, and hard for me to ask for help, but it seems that i've been needing it more & more these days :cry:

[louslobbs]

31. It makes me physically ill sometimes, what others are suffering while those that caused it all are

still playing their games and living very high on the hog. I'm shocked at what the corporations, millionaires and billionaires ..........the Koch brothers especially, have done to our America. I'm so sorry you are going through this,as are many in this new fucked up Republican reality.

Lou

[al_liberal]

21. We return the world order to the equilibrium it enjoyed prior to WW 1.

The years between then and now are but a blip on the screen in the history of the world, much like the single income earning household that existed from the 50's to the 70's. One way or another, we are going to be returned to the natural state of things as they existed prior to WWI. Now that the "bug" of ending all social programs has been introduced into the ear of the average American voter the game is over. The gig is up. Since the days of Reagan they have been able to convince people that the only thing preventing them from becoming millionaires is the government. Yep, the lowest income earners in our country think that they would be millionaires if only they didn't have to pay taxes to the leaches on welfare. It's a done deal.

[RKP5637]

26. Yep, so true. They convinced millions of low income earners to

walk in front of the speeding train. This will go down in history as "The Era of Stupidity."

[Poboy]

27. Welcome to DU. You are correct.

[badhair77]

24. FL, I'm sorry I can't fix your problem.

Actually It's my brother's problem, too. But I can offer support and a good thought going your way. Can you do something special for yourself, something that won't cost a cent, but will take your attention from those headlines Maybe take a walk, or spend some time with someone you value. Or find someone to laugh with, or even cry with. Maybe do something to help someone else. I sincerely wish you well and you'll be in my thoughts.

[Newest Reality]

29. Times like these

are pregnant with possibility.

The biggest and most difficult problem many of us face is making the transition from the "rugged individualist" paradigm towards a more tribal existence. That is easier said than done when you have been subjected to a lifetime of propaganda that endlessly shoveled the idea of infinite supply and infinite garbage dump into your brain via the glowing, blue rectangle that has substituted for tangible reality for a few generations.

Some people are alone, or live as a couple or a small family. What we face is a more ancient way of survival for our rather frail species that relies on its brain primarily, rather than instincts and all kinds of useful accouterments like fangs, claws, armor, fur, etc. We may have lost site of the value for survival that small tribes have, but, like the idea or not, (and you probably don't since you may not be even able to stand your family) that's how we are best suited to keep going into the future that we can all see now.

Face it, the idea of going off on your own and forging your own way from what the culture told you was important and valuable, has come to its end. Survival will become more about how you can get along with a larger group of people, live with them, and forge new connections where people share their skills, uniqueness and spread labor, chores and other functions evenly through a strongly connected group.

Again, this is going to be hard, (especially with those who have become loners and are currently bereft of friends and even family) yet, when it comes down to facing a dire situation and rapidly changing circumstances, it may be easier to make the transition.

We are just at the start of a new way of life and it will be up to us to forge ahead and do what has to be done, even though being at the forefront of it makes it a daunting and difficult task with much uncertainty and trial and error ahead. Yet, this is how the future will be and getting started now is the only way to make it in a new world and way of living that will be a hybrid, in the sense that it will be more simple and community oriented while still embracing whatever technology, we the new Serfs and peasants, can still hang onto in order to enhance our lives and break away from the tyranny and Fascism that corporatism has in store for us if we don't make the leap.

[FirstLight]

30. when I'm not in the state of angst, i feel the same way

Im starting a little community garden experiment (with close family friends in my own space) and realize just how lucky I am to have my tribe. I know that this is what will be the way of our future, because these outmaded illusions of power and individualism are falling away. humans survived the ice ages because we ARE social and tribal in nature...
thanks for highlighting a real truth. :grouphug: