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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 07:58 PM
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More strange radiation reports in US why am I not surprised
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 08:21 PM by Drew Richards
I thought of this last week and wish I had posted then because it is now happening every two days...

We keep getting reports of strange occurrences and increased radiation readings now at what is it so far?

3 plants in three different parts of the country?

One plant did a scram shutdown
One plant had high readings
and today another plant reporting high outside readings...

ah the somnambulant public, pay no attention to the cesium cloud passing, it's just gas...
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:00 PM
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1. What is the "somnambulant public" supposed to do about it? n/t
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:12 PM
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2. For a Start
We could demand to know why 118 out of 121 radiation detectors on the west coast are magically not working...If that is not too much to ask...
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:57 PM
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11. Where did you get those numbers?
Because they don't match with anything I've seen!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:03 PM
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13. Link to that claim please? I'd like to see what you're talking about. Thank you.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:09 PM
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15. link, please? please?? is it too much to ask for?
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:32 PM
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16. I am still looking for the article that reported the total numbers I cited but,
There are many others discussing the California issue if you do a bing/google search.

Here is the link to the RADNET monitoring stations with their PDF links to their active monitoring numbers...

SO FAR I have gone through the Socrata ALL file and found quite a few that have no data and going back in historical dating have never shown data.

You are welcome to look at RADNET yourself...and before you go this is a nothing site...

ITS the EPA's US governments PUBLIC site for radiation monitoring and it IS the best authority on monitoring we have in the US.

http://epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data-map.html
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:34 PM
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17. cool, thanks!

:thumbsup:
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:53 PM
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19. I've been looking at this all along
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 11:57 PM by Yo_Mama
There are eleven sites in CA, not over 100.

I use this page:
http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-sampling-data.html

The whole table can be found there, which combines milk, drinking water and air samples.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:14 PM
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3. I pay attention to my local and regional readings
Pretty stable. Sorry.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:18 PM
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4. Why worry when it's clearly explained that radiation is GOOD for us and we're being irrational?
I mean, it's just like getting a few (hundred) chest x-rays, or eating a few bananas grown in Chernobyl!

(Do I REALLY have to include the :sarcasm: tag?)
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:21 PM
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5. OH My!
I am sorry, silly me, I forgot that part :)
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:25 PM
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6. What good will worrying do us? Is everyone on the west coast supposed
to move over a few states till the air has (more or less) cleared?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:28 PM
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7. Why not come out and say it? You think it is actually a magical cloud from Japan? nt
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:43 PM
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8. I can't say that Bonobo
Because I don't know presently what the problem, nor if there really is one.

I am just making an observation of interesting coincidence's.

I would like to see more main stream reporting not specifically on Fukushima fall out per se and more on why the detectors are offline in California and we are only hearing about it now.

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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:48 PM
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9. I remember seeing something on the news about some nuke accident
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 08:49 PM by Cetacea
in Japan. That was a while ago though. I wish I could help you but I am tired of searching for any recent developments. It seems that once it reached a level 7 the last remnants of news coverage went away.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:50 PM
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10. URGENT: Japan now admits Fukushima at 154 trillion Bq's/Day and West coast Radiation forecast,Part1
Amazingly informative YouTube 10-minute or so video presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2wLbwuJeMM&feature=shar...





"Maybe you don't want that chest X-Ray..."

As if we had a choice about radiation coming on the winds. This Canadian video also cites that the Canadian government has moved the radiation monitors from Vacouver inland to Kamloops. Not pretty on the West Coast, especially B.C.



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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:59 PM
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12. Don't worry, be happy
Official: Fukushima radiation release falling

Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission estimates the amount of radioactive release from the Fukushima Daiichi power plant at around 1 terabecquerels per hour as of Sunday. A government advisor says he thinks the amount is gradually falling.

The commission announced its latest estimate on Monday, and compared the level to the 154 terabecquerels per day on April 5th.

Kenkichi Hirose, a Cabinet Office advisor in charge of the Nuclear Safety Commission, told reporters that he believes the amount of radioactive release has been declining judging from the current conditions of the plant...

When Japan raised the severity rating of the Fukushima nuclear disaster on April 12th, the commission announced its estimate that 630,000 terabecquerels of radiation had been released into the atmosphere from March 11th till April 5th. At that time, the Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency offered its own calculation of 370,000 terabecquerels.

...The agency said its estimate is about one-tenth of what was released in the 10 days following the Chernobyl accident on April 26th, 1986, and the Nuclear Safety Commission's estimate is even higher.


Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:50 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/26_11.html



Crowdsourcing Japan's radiation levels

A group of motivated individuals have come together to create a community approach to gathering radiation data in Japan.

"..."We were getting frustrated with what was being reported in the media, what was being released by TEPCO, what was being released by the government," said Sean Bonner, co-founder of Safecast.org, which is currently partially self-funded, partially funded via a Kickstarter fundraiser.

"The information was just kind of unreliable, not updated frequently, no way to fact-check it... So, we just started thinking: What happens if we go get numbers ourselves? Like, is that an option?"

...Bonner said that one of the members of HackerSpace, a collective involved with Safecast, has family just outside the initial evacuation zone in Fukushima Prefecture. "They were told that the their area was safe, and so the guys from Tokyo HackerSpace took a Geiger counter and drove up there," said Bonner.

"And they're farmers, organic farmers, and they're in this area that they were told was okay, but the numbers were off the charts – they were high. And then 10 days later, that area was evacuated as well."

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/04/201142317359479927.html


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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:05 PM
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14. Sssshhh, no one wants to see that or
acknowledge it. The clouds have been spreading across the US and Canada, but just hush about it.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 09:42 PM
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18. Don't you think it's been happening like this all along and they're only
reporting it now?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:56 PM
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20. word salad. what is your claim, exactly?
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