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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:16 AM
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These two girls are subhuman and should be treated as such.
The more I hear about the beating of the transgender victim the more it makes my blood boil. Turns out the victim went into seizures. Theres no excuse for this none whatsoever!

The following is a article about people rallying support around the victim at the Mcdonalds and also has a video of the brutal beating (don't watch the video if you don't want to see brutality), Rhe Mcdonalds employee that shot the video was fired. "The McDonald’s closed early for the rally. A message was placed under the sign saying “in support of peace.”" what a crock of shit!



Advocates rally in support of transgender beating victim

On Monday, hundreds of people rallied in front of the McDonald’s restaurant in Maryland where a transgender woman was viciously beaten by two teenage girls.
The victim, 23-year-old Chrissy Polis did not attend the rally but members of her family showed up in support, including her mother, Renee Carr.

“The turnout tonight is wonderful, I’m so happy,” Carr said. “I didn’t think that McDonald’s was a dangerous place, all she wanted to do was eat and use the bathroom.”

Last week Polis was attacked outside of the restroom in the restaurant. A worker recorded the beating which shows Polis trying to defend herself. The video was posted online and quickly went viral.

http://www.365gay.com/news/advocates-rally-in-support-of-transgender-beating-victim/
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:17 AM
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1. Two very sick girls
What a result of the coarsening of our society. The promulgators of that crap will blame the minority community and THAT is just more misdirection.

The media will air that slime unquestioned too. Watch.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:14 AM
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17. They are products of our society
They are projections of something inside ourselves. We recognize it for the horror that it is and want to destroy it/them. We don't know how to heal this within ourselves, but we can destroy those awful, and someone called them subhuman, girls.

This is us. It is not something out there. This is ours to own. If we don't own it, as long as we deny it, IT remains outside of us. We remain victims rather than human beings who can learn, grow and evolve.




We are all connected.

We are hard wired for cooperation.

If you don't follow what your heart wants, it can destroy you.


http://www.iamthedoc.com/
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:21 AM
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18. "We are all connected"
:grouphug:
That's the nut of it.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:25 AM
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20. I reject that.
This is ours to own. If we don't own it, as long as we deny it, IT remains outside of us. We remain victims rather than human beings who can learn, grow and evolve.

I reject that. This notion that somehow the actions of these homophobic thugs are somehow connected to me is offensive.

There is such a thing as personal responsibility.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:35 PM
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26. Perhaps it is
not an "either/or" thing. I absolutely and 100% agree with you that it must be viewed in terms of the personal responsibility of the two thugs who committed this brutal crime. And without question, neither you or I approve, much less participate, in such vicious actions.

At the same time, far too many people -- and again, not you or I -- are aware of such crimes, disapprove of them, expect that justice will be administered, but do not see any connections whatsoever to their own lives. Now, that doesn't make them guilty of anything, certainly not of this crime. But as a society, in order to reduce the number of hate crimes and reduce the threat of violence that far too many people face, it requires a greater contribution on the part of good people. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but I think it is.

Those people who are coming out to public demonstrations in this and related cases are doing such an important thing. Of course, it is not the only contribution one can make. But it helps generate awareness. It can motivate others to take a stand.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 01:35 PM
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28. I see what you are saying.
But as a society, in order to reduce the number of hate crimes and reduce the threat of violence that far too many people face, it requires a greater contribution on the part of good people. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but I think it is.

I see what you are saying, and it has some merit. But I think there are always going to be people who, no matter how you nurture them, are just worthless. People who choose to disregard the good things given to them, and who instead forge their own path of vileness. Some people are just sociopaths who don't give a damn about other people.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 01:45 PM
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29. Let your anger lead you to action that leads to healing
I am not saying they are not personally responsible. But this is the monstrous thing that has been created by the underlying story our society runs on.

Until we look inside of ourselves and see what part we have in supporting a stucture that condones and even celebrates such behavior, it will only get worse.


Without knowing the history of these girls, do not be quick to judge them. Judge the action, okay. It was horrific. It was inhumane. My heart goes out to the woman who was beaten.

There will be healing only when we have understanding of our history.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:22 AM
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2. Violent criminals is what they are.
Can't think of anything good to say about all of the people who watched, either, except the camera person, who should probably be given a Pulitzer.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:24 AM
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3. The camera person was a McDonalds employee who thought the beating was funny. n/t
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:38 AM
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7. I stand corrected.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:24 AM
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4. And yes, the two bigoted fucks who beat her ARE subhuman!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:31 AM
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5. Which is probably how they regarded their victim
The beating, while inexcusable, does not reduce the perpetrators' humanity, and I once again decline the invitation to grade humans on a scale.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:43 AM
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9. it's not clear to me WHAT those two were.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 10:44 AM by closeupready
nt
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:45 AM
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13. +1
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:37 AM
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6. Nope.
Fully human, and should be treated as such - responsible and accountable for their actions.

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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:44 AM
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11. +1. The "these people are subhuman and should be treated as such" rehtoric should be reserved for

the Freepers. That type of thinking is what caused those girls to do the terrible thing they did.

I hope they are and are judged fairly by a jury of their peers and given a fitting penalty for their crimes.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:48 AM
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15. Just another type of freeper.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 10:49 AM by William769
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:13 PM
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25. Local (DC) news reported that one has been arrested for fighting at that McDonalds before.
Apparently, she goes there looking for an excuse to fight (in public).

She's all gangsta and doesn't belong in society.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:41 AM
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8. They are teenage girls raised in a violent, generally anti-LGBT culture.
They are not sub-human, although their actions make them seem so. They are ignorant, and probably illiterate.

They should be treated like any other dangerously violent hate criminal is treated.

I am sickened also; but IMO, if we react like they would, they win.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:12 PM
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24. Agreed. Violence and ignorance is only too human.
There are layers upon layers of issues going on here, which is why it's so difficult and depressing to think about. But to chalk it up to "those girls are sub-human" seems like taking the Republicans' way out.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:44 AM
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10. I wonder if they'll be tried as adults
Seems fair given the nature of the crime
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:45 AM
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12. Are they
vermin?

:wow:
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Annata4Peace Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:47 AM
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14. Not subhuman
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 10:47 AM by Annata4Peace
Simply products of a culture of fear and hate. A society where more people watch someone being beat in a YouTube video than protest the loss of civil liberties.

These girls are not less than us. They are a reflection of who we are.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:50 AM
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16. They are NOT a reflection of who I am or who I associate with.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:23 AM
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19. Nice "othering." Consider them human, and hold them responsible for their actions.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:42 AM
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21. I would have punched those pieces of trash ho's in the face
and smiled while I was doing it...

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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:05 PM
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22. Just watched the video. Jesus christ people are cold hearted nowadays. What the hell is wrong with

our society that makes people think its acceptable to treat anybody like that. Even the people working there who weren't participating in the attack but encouraged it and let it happen without trying to stop it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:06 PM
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23. how we treat people is about us more than anything else.
and their behavior was all too human.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:36 PM
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27. They are ENTIRELY human.
That's the problem.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 01:46 PM
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30. The solution to dehumanizing is not more of it. n/t
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