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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:57 AM
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OUR Brilliant President
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 12:15 PM by kpete
WED APR 27, 2011 AT 07:49 AM PDT
Our Brilliant President
byAdept2u

The release of the Long Form today was not intended to shut the birthers up. There is nothing anyone can do about gross ignorance and racism and as a Black man all of his life the President is absolutely aware of it. He didn’t release it for them.

The President released the long form as an indictment of our MSM which is the absolute culprit in this sorry affair.

He made it a point to tell the world what the real issue was. We have serious problems that require serious deliberations and our MSM is currently behaving like they take their standards and practices from the National Enquirer. This is dangerous for our nation with Citizens United and unlimited capital available to promote their lies. He has just tossed down a Presidential marker to be done with that silliness.

Right now in newsrooms all across the land if there are any editors or producers who still have the ability to feel shame they should be feeling it, because for three years now they have participated in an open slander of the President and his mother and father. Every birther Congressman who they molly coddled and did not call a liar every time they opened their mouths is now in their portfolio.

the rest:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/27/970581/-Our-Brilliant-President-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnYJI4QTpXs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/27/remarks-president
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/obama-birthers-drop-dead-0
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:59 AM
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1. Ha! Finally I get one right!
It's good to see my words/thoughts validated by others for a change. :D
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Lovette Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:01 PM
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2. Good post, thanks for sharing. . . .
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:02 PM
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4. and thank you Lovette
for stopping by!
peace, kpete
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:02 PM
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3. Kick and Rec!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:05 PM
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5. Exactly. n/t
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:06 PM
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6. I would say for any newsroom with those shitty standards, this smack isn't going to change a thing.
Not as long as creatures like Roger Ailes crack the whip. If this is part of a One-Two punch by the Administration, I hope the second punch is forthcoming.

PB
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:36 AM
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40. It's not Roger Ailes that was meant
It's the Wolf Blitzers and the Brian Williams and other not-so-closet Republicans pretending
to be serious anchors and fielding "the best political team on television," even if, as I
found out, that Blitzer was required to keep saying that by his employers.

With all the eavesdropping blessed by the Cheneybush administration, maybe Obama's team has
picked up some good stuff on the MSM that would really embarrass them. Probably not, as that
is more a Republican mind set than a Democratic one, but it wouldn't hurt if they started to
fight fire with something more than a used match.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:10 PM
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7. Andrea Mitchell just called it racism. Maybe the msm will wake up afterall.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:22 PM
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9. I was listening to that.. I could not believe my ears..they finally called it out
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:35 PM
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14. Absolutely -
I understand that a poster on the Site That Shall Not Be Named actually wrote something to the effect that the release of the long-form birth certificate meant absolutely nothing as it couldn't turn Obama into a Caucasian.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:51 PM
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30. They never wake for long.
:boring:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:21 PM
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8. K & R n/t
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:23 PM
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10. K&R
Good summation.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:31 PM
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11. absolutely! &R n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:33 PM
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12. You are on to something, See this exchange with "Chuck" at the start:
THE PRESIDENT: Hello, everybody. Now, let me just comment, first of all, on the fact that I can't get the networks to break in on all kinds of other discussions -- (laughter.) I was just back there listening to Chuck -- he was saying, it’s amazing that he’s not going to be talking about national security. I would not have the networks breaking in if I was talking about that, Chuck, and you know it.

Q Wrong channel. (Laughter.)
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:34 PM
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13. Newsrooms across the nation...well that leaves Fox News out.
:shrug:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:35 PM
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15. My first reaction was anger, but I think the President laid it all
out very nicely in his speech. It'll be interesting to see what the MSM does with this story going forward.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 01:02 PM
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16. Freaking perfect
What a bunch of racists
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 02:38 PM
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17. Corporate media is fucking WORTHLESS!
More than worthless - they mislead and distract as these articles show. Our media fucking SUCKS! It's not news - it's about selling commercials for their corporate masters. Our local news is really bad - we have 3 local station but none ever tell us about what our local government is up to - it's all just murders and bad shit to keep people scared. Corporate media is fucking WORTHLESS!

Rachel is good but it seems there are still subjects she won't cover like Sibel Edmonds - unless maybe I missed that one.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 02:41 PM
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19. NO no, they're much worse than worthless. They engage in
mind control. Certainly not worthless to our lords.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:12 PM
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31. Worthless would be a giant upgrade.
They are propaganda and distraction only.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 02:39 PM
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18. k&r..
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harris8 Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 02:49 PM
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20. K&R KPete!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 02:50 PM
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21. It would have been brilliant to ignore.
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:39 AM
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42. I thought so too at first, but then...
I realized that Repukes' will now have to produce clear, convincing arguments to their positions on the real issues, which they can't. They have no distractions to hide behind now.

Most birthers will still be around and screaming, and they are all Repukes. Independents don't want to associate with a party filled with a bunch of proven, ridiculous, racist, morons.

Lastly, the credibility of his most ardunent attackers is destroyed. No Independent can buy their shit anymore.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 04:09 PM
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22. I would like to not only give this 100,000,000,000,000 KnR's
but I'd like to make it a public service message to broadcast on every station, cable and non-cable, before, during and after every "newscast", for 1 year, at least.

I want it on the front page of every newspaper and cover of every "news"-magazine.




I despise these worthless M$M shills.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 04:31 PM
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23. Right on the money. Any interviewer who sits quietly when a birth-er starts his crap will no longer
be tolerated.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:30 AM
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52. Unfortunately, they will be tolerated and listened to.
Next, they will question his sexual preference. Then, they
will find something else. They do not quit.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 05:14 PM
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24. K & R
:thumbsup:
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 06:00 PM
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25. K and R -- the sham that is our MSM needs to be regularly exposed for what it is.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 06:15 PM
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26. Absolutely
I've rarely seen the mainstream fellate a non-story with such gusto. Their knees must be bleeding.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 07:02 PM
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27. Kick! Get a clue MSM!
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:31 PM
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28. They'd have to have a conscience to feel shame
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 08:33 PM by ProfessionalLeftist
They have no conscience. This same media has sent people to their early deaths with their lies and BS. They've been at this for decades. They've made an entire industry of just this sort of shit. It won't stop as long as their corporate owners can make a buck off it and there are no media integrity laws.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:49 PM
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29. Maybe the Lamestream Media will wake up, UNLESS...
They are complacent.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:21 PM
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32. K&R
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:22 PM
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33. Kicked&Recommended!
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:28 PM
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34. Remember the massive layoffs of journalists years ago?
I'm sure there are still quite a few willing to dig. Orders not to hire and report on substance issues comes from the top.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:21 PM
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35. Obama and crew have been very interesting lately.
:think:
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:24 PM
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36. Yes. Every question a carefully crafted implication to eep the pot stirred.
And that's all the point there is to it. They are unconscionable.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:31 PM
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37. Right on. Give credit where and when credit is due. nt
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:08 AM
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38. K&R Agree 100%
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:33 AM
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39. K & R. n/t
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:12 AM
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41. K&R&nt
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:02 AM
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43. Your post overlooks the fact the the "free" press is a bought-and-paid-for tool...
...of the right.

Like the Nazi guards at the concentration camps, they're "only doing their jobs."
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:21 AM
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44. Bob Woodward just condemned the media
for manufacturing controversy when all the evidence was on one side - Obamas.
They are all racist scumbags.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:34 AM
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53. +1 - I couldn't agree more. n/t
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:11 AM
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60. Where has Woodward been for the past three years?
A little late to notice the media's role, methinks.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:22 AM
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45. Disagree
The media does NOT believe they were selling the story that the President might be born somewhere else, they are fully convinced that they sold the story that a huckster with a bad comb-over was willing to stand on a soap box in the village square and make that charge. Now that Trump has suckered the President into proving day was day, and night was night when it came to his birthplace, they'll gladly see what else this P. T. Barnum can get Barack Obama to do. That's how he suckers the media into doing things for him.

Donald Trump has made a lifetime out of getting otherwise smart people to do stupid things for him, no matter how much he's already proven that he's a failure. Every new bride after his divorces, every new business deal after his bankruptcies, and every new demand for a bogus claim is going to be fodder for the media, they eat it up.

Proof? The President's release of this document should have been on page 6B of a newspaper, since it didn't factually change a single thing about what we knew of Barack Obama's Constitutional eligibility to be President. Instead, it was above-the-fold, page one news. Don't think for a second that the media will be tired of letting Trump hand him those kinds of stories as long as the huckster can pull it off.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:38 AM
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54. Obama trumped Trump
He comes out looking good. :thumbsup:

No reason to bury the story. Fight fire with fire. The timing was perfect.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:43 PM
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65. He looks good to most of us
He was never going to get any respect from the haters. What counts is what the people in the mushy middle, the so-called independents think. My contention is that the President weakened himself in their eyes by giving in to the nutball fringe that Trump has harnessed for his own glee.

He already knew the result of the search, he has more than enough money to have had someone reliable tell him what's in some dusty old records in a cabinet in Hawaii. He was just playing the game of "Heads, I win, (you kowtowed to me) tails, you lose (you're still concealing something)" The President bought into that, and it won't stop with the long form birth certificate.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:25 AM
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46. k and r
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:26 AM
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47. i agree. i finally listened to what obama said late last night. he was excellent and
it was about the media. shamed them all.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:14 AM
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48. Kick and Rec to the heavens!
:applause:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:33 AM
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49. The MSM is an absolute culprit on many issues.
It has become a conduit of pure misinformation.

Now when the media makes a statement I automatically question it. I don't care what the statement is, my natural inclination is now to try to ferret out a motive behind or question the information. The media is simply not to be trusted. Especially not to be trusted is Fox News, the various innocuous sounding right wing think tanks and the Wall Street Journal, not to mention the utter trash right wing sources on the internet like Newsmax.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:03 AM
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50. I disagree that the birther crap was primarily MSM fueled
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 08:03 AM by Bragi
The birther crap was/is fueled by right wing social media campaigners and some GOP and Tea Party pols with established media standing (i.e. pols who are recognized by MSM media as being newsworthy.)

It was never fueled or sustained by MSM eager to cover this junk issue. The MSM covered the story only when a recognized politician with media standing bloviated on the topic, and made it difficult not to cover them. That's the way media work.

I think what Obama did by releasing the original BC yesterday was to authoritatively, at long last, offer up concrete evidence that would debunk the junk birther issue once and for all for any reasonable person.

That has now been done, and I thinkw e'll find that the MSM will be happy to banish this issue to the sidelines.

However, the issue will continue to bubble in right wing social media, and occasionally, GOP and Tea Party pols with media standing will weigh in and be covered by the MSM, which frankly, is just doing their job.

A final point: I am as much a critic of the MSM as anyone (I really am) but I am beginning to find the tendency here to blame them for just about every modern ill to be unjustified, inaccurate, and ultimately, antithetical to free speech and democracy.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:07 AM
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51. Adept2u apparently has no clue that the MSM don't give a flying fuck about facts
or research or anything other than doing the bidding of their corporate masters. And their bidding does NOT include being favorable toward any Democratic President no matter how pro-corporate he is. Such is life in the 21st century in Amerika.

George Bush, the deserter was a patriotic Air National Guard pilot while John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, was a "coward who didn't earn his medals" if you listened to these sycophants. Same thing, different President.



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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:40 AM
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55. it's soo much easier for the news media to cover nonsense
The typical tv-mesmerized consumer can't face all the stuff that's actually happening in the world, better to focus on the silly shit that pays the bill$$$ Weddings, birth certificates, a princess's new outfit, etc etc
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:14 AM
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56. Was a good job.
Of course, Democrat that I am, I wish he had been more pointed in his condemnation of the kind of pocket reporter the licks the boots of republican pr offices. I would have loved a line about how the politicians and reporters who have spent their time on this issue are bad citizens, citizens who would ignore the plight of the hungry and jobless for stupid games and political pandering. I just doubt the "ability to feel shame" in the alls of corporate MSM. They are, in Holden Caulfield's words, "about as sensitive as a toilet seat." They long ago gave up any sense of shame or remorse for their greedy, pandering, sniveling little lives. They have seen nobility and seen debasement. They chose a life of the latter, having determined that they would never be capable of the former.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:52 AM
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58. The personalized anti-media venom here is disturbing /nt
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:18 PM
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63. So by and large, you think the media does a heroic job?
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:06 PM
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64. Heroic? What would make you say that?
The point I'd like to make is that I think there may be an over-reaction going on within the U.S left about the MSM such that little attention is paid to *using* communications tools -- such as the MSM itself -- effectively.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:14 AM
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67. Your post.
I think there is a severe under-reaction to the lies and distortions of the MSM. Their avoidance of real problems and concentration on distraction is not right.

Do you happen to work in the MSM? Just asking.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:38 AM
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68. Not me, but I have family who do
The idea that everyone in newsrooms sits there and waits for instructions from corporate central on how to mislead and lie is too foolish for words, yet it seems to be the prevailing cartoon-like mythology these days not just on the right, but also on the left.

Yes there is MSM media bias, yes it is systemic, but is everything in the MSM lies, and everyone associated with it liars? Absolutely not.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 09:02 PM
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69. Touchy?
Where did I say that "everything in the MSM lies, and everyone associated with it liars"? You are reading in. I suspect a touchy subject for you. I have worked in Journalism. Right now there are precious few media outlets that work at anything near a moral or professional ethics level. For every journalist willing to risk his/her position to tell the truth there are fifty that will shill for a buck or a chance the get themselves moved up the ladder. My contacts from my former days seem to be jaded. They believe they haven't got a chance in a million of getting a story about the truth published. So their attitude seems to be "why try?" Make a buck. They are a very cynical lot. I don't for a minute believe that their cynicism is misplaced. The owners of the MSM simply will not allow truth and depth and discussion on any story.

The cartoon is the people who believe that NBC or CNN or fox or the NYT or the WP will give them the information that they need. A cartoon of a happy, happy land that was destroyed several years ago. But I guess it is a happy fantasy to live in. Realty sucking as it does.
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:35 AM
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57. I said the same thing yesterday...

in reply to a different post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=661076&mesg_id=662156


So, yeah, it's a brilliant rhetorical and political move - aimed at the media AND the independent voters AND the Dems who want to see a bit of spirit from and contempt for.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:56 AM
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59. Thank you. n/t
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:45 AM
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61. Shame. Really. It's the rallying call of the next election. Shame Shame Shame.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 11:23 AM
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62. They covered Trump crowing that he "made" Obama do it. And moving on to school records.

It's easy to see why the many people who always took birtherism as the nonsense it is took some satisfaction waving the storied "long form" in birther's faces.

But if we were expecting apologies, or even embarrassment from Orly or Corsi or late-comer Trump, it's already plain that's not going to happen.

Maybe the President felt he had no choice when mainstream media continued to treat the birthers like a legitimate news story. But I think they love this. As Orly showed on Lawrence's show, they've got busloads of other nonsense and fakery to unload. More books to sell. The Donald "heard" there's questions about those school records.

They'll need a skin sample and a DNA specimen next. Perhaps a bath in Holy Water on national television.

Answering lies is important. Absolutely. The short form was up years ago. Actual journalists ran this down and debunked it to death. At some point, though, you're legitimizing crazy when you invite it in for tea and talk to it like it had good sense.

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:51 PM
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66. Worse than the National Enquirer.
They got sued enough times that they stopped printing bullshit that was actionable (meaning they could be sued for libel and slander).

They broke the John Edwards story.

They had anthrax sent to them and one of their staff members died after they posted an unflattering photo of the Bush twins drunk and falling down.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 09:15 PM
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70. When David Corn pointed that out to Tweey...he quickly cut him off.
Didn't want to discuss the media was at fault. He must have been feeling guilty.
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