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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:42 PM
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What You Should Expect Next : The After-Birthers
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 01:09 PM by demwing
"It doesn't matter where Obama was born, what matters is whether his father was a US Citizen"

To support this concept, they will use US Code Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III, Part I, Section 1401, Subsection (a)

http://law.justia.com/codes/us/title8/8usc1401.html

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States
at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;


You will hear these words repeated ad nauseam: "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

They will claim that since Obama's father was from Kenya, that he was subject of the United Kingdom, and so was Obama.

So, if you have birther in you family, office, classroom, or within 100 feet of you at any time, and they start mouthing this crap, here is something that you might want to know - and use as ammunition - to help counter this (il)logic:

Let's go back to Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III, Part I, Section 1401, and refer to Subsection (e):

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States
at birth:

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;


So let's get this straight: Subsection (a) excludes a child BORN IN THE US if the father was not a citizen (but mother was), but subsection (e) INCLUDES that same child - as long as they were born in an outlying possession?

Really? Children born in our outlying possessions have more citizenship rights than children born in one of the 50 states?

That's not just illogical, it's stupid, and downright Un-American! :)
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 01:10 PM
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1. Butkis? Really?
ok, I'll take it :P
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