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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:05 PM
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Fox News ratings down, competing cable news up. People tired of lunatic fringe reporting.
My question is: How come it took so many years?


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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:07 PM
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1. Lets hope this is a continuing trend.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:51 PM
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11. I don't see why it shouldn't be a continuing trend -- especially if the
Democrats are also very actively promoting loud and clear the Neocons mistakes, stupidities and lies
for everyone to hear and see. Point out all their contradictions, deceitful and underhanded ways of
ripping off the public.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 07:01 AM
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16. But Democrats are not doing that.
Democrats are doing anything but taking advantage of the right wing and NeoCon mistakes and over-reaches.

Witness the "gang of six" for example. Instead of Democrats shouting from the rooftops that "Republicans want to cut your medicare.", they are saying, "Oh, we need to compromise on the budget."

Is there a single one of the gang of six that is not at least a millionaire? I hardly think so. So, Democrats suck, they just suck a little bit less. And I am fed the fuck up with it!
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:54 PM
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21. And another big thing: The Diebold Electronic Voting Machines
Edited on Fri Apr-29-11 01:55 PM by Cal33
have been around for over 10 yers now, and they are still being used in
many states. This means that in order for a Dem. presidential hopeful to
win, s/he has to win by a BIG MARGIN. Either that or lose. A few percentage
points difference will always be nullified by those machines!

Don't the Dems. care?

Too many of them don't seem to care too much. Maybe they need someone
to fire up their enthusiasm the way Harry Truman used to do. Unfortunately,
there aren't any Harry Trumans around to fire them up today.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:34 PM
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23. One would have thought that
their highest priority would be to get rid of those voting machines.

Democrats are behaving very suspiciously. They are behaving especially suspiciously in the face of outrage over attacks on unions and the social safety net. It is as if we are dealing with Republicans in Democrats clothing.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:07 PM
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2. The old fart viewers are dying off.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:10 PM
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3. it took so long because humans hate to say they were wrong
so they stuck with it until it stunk so bad the neighbors could smell it.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:01 PM
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10. Right, that and so many of our people have been brain-washed
by the endless propaganda and lies of the Repubs. I'd hate
to think how many gullible people there are, even among the
well-educated ones.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:11 PM
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4. Fox news ratings were always over-inflated.
Fox news in the beginning would gave out free TV's to hospitals, etc., on the condition that their station was played continuously.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:17 PM
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7. Yeah and many random places have fox news on their TVs
and now when I go to like the gym and Fox is on even if I'm not watching the TV I turn it off. And I'm sure many other people are doing the same.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:20 PM
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8. Bribery can take place in so many different ways, and the Neocons
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 05:21 PM by Cal33
keep on inventing new ones. No one can come close to them for deceit and corruption.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 07:12 AM
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17. Very good point.
Edited on Fri Apr-29-11 07:12 AM by Enthusiast
Just the way they inflated the sales of right wing books.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:15 PM
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5. I am curious. What would happen if their ratings continued to slide?
I mean, significantly.
Painfully significant.

Would they pull back a bit, and at least try to appear not to be batshit crazy?
Or would they amp it up, and go completely off the deep edge?
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:33 PM
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9. I'd say they'd do whatever would make them or save them the most money. Neocons always follow.
the money trail. It never fails. Murdoch is one of these. That's his modus operandi.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:16 PM
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6. Old racists die off and often do not reproduce. But it's a slow process.
Young people have no room for racism, thank God!

Young rich kids may have opinions on taxes or unions, but by the immense power of peer influence, even the children of the super rich 1 percentile wouldn't dare to say obviously racist remarks or jokes in public.

Rich or poor, young people want to be cool. Racism, Islam-o-phobia, misogyny, and class-ism are not cool.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:52 PM
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12. I'm tired of the lunatic fringe people.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 09:55 PM by PeaceNikki
Without them, FOX News wouldn't exist.

Also, let's be real, some of that lunatic fringe reporting has spilled into the "norm" more than it ever should have. The lunatic fringe people have choices of networks now.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:45 AM
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13. Fox-like idiocy is now being spread around.
Think about it. NPR is certainly not the liberal bastion Rethugs have claimed it is. PBS has several pure right wing programs. CNN isn't liberal by any stretch. MSNBC has plenty of corporatist and right wing content. The same can be said for NBC, ABC and CBS.

So we don't have to worry about the far right fringe getting their views heard.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:47 AM
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14. Because KO and Rachel opened many eyes
to the FUX lies.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:56 AM
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15. i have been in a couple business that have turned off fox and wont allow. have seen a couple
bumpersticker that says fox lies.

in this area, that is good

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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 07:22 AM
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18. Circulation and viewership for old school MSM print and TV declines steadily
which is why valuations are so high for internet entities. Even old internet entities have to buy newer ones to stay in the game, eg. AOL bought HuffPo.

The average FNC viewer is 65. in primetime the average goes up to 68 years old. Look for FNC to try again to reach younger viewers bc their future depends on it. Eventually they will just have strippers pole dancing AND reading "news" copy. I'm only half kidding. That is the formula that seems to work. They want to make propaganda sexy. They are probably in talks with that 'Asians in the Library' bimbo right now to replace Beck.

"Competing cable news" is just as bad as Fox -- they are slicker about it. The #1 TV news source for most Americans is The TODAY Show which is like a cross between the HSN and Fox-lite.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 08:40 AM
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19. Very Simple Explanation for This. Fox News' Demo Is Old People.
As time goes on, more of them pass away, and their ratings decline.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 11:42 AM
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20. I think Fox News' ratings dropped rapidly (within a few months),
and in large numbers (double-digit percentages). The passing
on of the old people goes at a more or less steady rate. It
plays role, of course, but only a small one.

On the other hand, the elderly might be the ones who have stopped
watching Fox in large numbers. When the Repubs. started attacking
Medicare and Social Secure, even the old ones begin to realize
that their livelihoods are being threatened.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:55 PM
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22. One would hope people are waking up
I've done the best that I can to educate those around me, including ridiculing the things Fox reports and how it reports them.

Ridiculing Fox has worked the best, and it's so easy to do.
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