Susan Rice : LIAR Accuses Libyan troops of viagra fueled rape (No evidence)

[cali]

UNITED NATIONS | Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:34pm EDT

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.S. envoy to the United Nations told the Security Council on Thursday that troops loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi were increasingly engaging in sexual violence and some had been issued the impotency drug Viagra, diplomats said.

Several U.N. diplomats who attended a closed-door Security Council meeting on Libya told Reuters that U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice raised the Viagra issue in the context of increasing reports of sexual violence by Gaddafi's troops.

"Rice raised that in the meeting but no one responded," a diplomat said on condition of anonymity. The allegation was first reported by a British newspaper.

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Several diplomats said Rice provided no evidence for the Viagra allegation, which they said was made in an attempt to persuade doubters the conflict in Libya was not just a standard civil war but a much nastier fight in which Gaddafi is not afraid to order his troops to commit heinous acts.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/29/us-libya-troops-rape-idUSTRE73S74B20110429

US intel: No evidence of Viagra as weapon in Libya



UNITED NATIONS — There is no evidence that Libyan military forces are being given Viagra and engaging in systematic rape against women in rebel areas, US military and intelligence officials told NBC News on Friday.


Diplomats said Thursday that US Ambassador Susan Rice told a closed-door meeting of officials at the UN that the Libyan military is using rape as a weapon in the war with the rebels and some had been issued the anti-impotency drug. She reportedly offered no evidence to backup the claim..

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42824884/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

Fuck you Susan Rice, you fucking liar.

[Hannah Bell]

1. oh, that's right up there with incubator babies. viagra. lol. like rapists need to take viagra.

the warmongers have really jumped the shark on this one.

[cali]

2. it's despicable. lower than low.

and it makes me see red. fuck the warmongers.

[Prometheus Bound]

3. War propagandists are a vile species.

[dipsydoodle]

4. Best filed under Brother's Grimm's Fairy Tales

along with the joke incubators allegation from years ago.

Rec'd.

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. I thought John Bolton no longer worked at the UN

Sounds more like the crap he'd do... I find this a strange story
and wonder how Susan Rice would buy into to this with her intelligence.

[cali]

6. anyone here who supports the Libyan action want to weigh in on this?

[dipsydoodle]

7. One of the seven or so ?

:rofl:

[pampango]

8. I support the UN's R2P intervention in many countries, not just Libya.

Apparently, Rice is supporting the UN's focus on the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war. Last year a special UN envoy was appointed to investigate and publicize the issue.

Rumors of its use by Gaddafi supporters should not be brought up, even in closed UN sessions, without any evidence. On that I think we can agree.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/gaddafi-troops-rape-viagra-libya_n_855216.html

"The use of rape as a weapon during wartime has received increasing attention at the United Nations. Last year, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon appointed a special envoy on sexual violence during armed conflict, Margot Wallstrom.

Earlier this month, Wallstrom chided the Security Council for failing to mention sexual violence in two recent resolutions on Libya, despite having made the subject a priority.

Wallstrom said at the time that reports of rape in Libya remained unconfirmed but cited the highly publicized case of Eman al-Obaidi, the woman who burst into a journalists' hotel in Tripoli last month saying she had been raped by pro-government militiamen.

The International Criminal Court is already investigating whether Gaddafi's government committed war crimes in its violent crackdown against demonstrators who demanded greater freedoms. The crackdown sparked a rebellion that has turned into a civil war."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iLwUJvihpEco3JY9pN7tS_TSVD3w?docId=CNG.884a11613242c5f5776f856c69831f72.10b1

"The ambassador did not give sources for the allegations. But another diplomat at the meeting said she made the comment as part of a debate with another envoy to highlight that "the coalition is confronting an adversary doing reprehensible things."

The US mission did not immediately comment on the claims.

Allegations of viagra being given to Kadhafi forces have been aired in British tabloid newspapers. A doctor in the Libyan city of Ajdabiya said last month that Kadhafi troops had been given viagra and condoms as part of a campaign of sexual violence.

Margot Wallstrom, the UN special representative on sexual violence in conflict, issued a statement last week highlighting that reports of rapes in the Libya war have been "brutally silenced".

[Hannah Bell]

10. tabloid papers and "a doctor". now there's some great confirmation.

rape is typically a part of war.

it's also typically a part of war propaganda.

[iwishiwas]

9. This really makes the US look stupid!!

[Doctor_J]

11. Viagra - this war's yellow cake

:eyes:

[Distant Observer]

21. Pretty Desperate of Rice to have to appeal to VIAGRA as a WMD level rationalization

for a WAR OF CHOICE against a small country.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. She annoys me sometimes. Recently she was very rude to an Al Jazeera reporter for no reason at all.

She kept talking down to her an cutting her off. When the reporter was being perfectly civil. I guess she needs to show how much of a "hard ass" she is.

[Distant Observer]

13. Sadly,planted stories are part of the modern Regime-Change game. Even a CURVEBALL gets a shot

at putting out stories, a long as they are vaguely credible. The whole operation is a cynical SCAM, so what does it matter if the individual media stories have a real basis in fact.

[joshcryer]

14. There were reports in Ajdabiya about viagra being used.

The US has not received direct evidence of this, it was a report by doctors in Ajdabiya reported by Al Jazeera.

We don't know if Susan Rice said "there were reports of..." or if she blatantly claimed "there is evidence for."

[Distant Observer]

15. I suspect viagra is use in many cities around the world. THE LIE is tying that to a GOV STRATEGY

What does OBAMA have to do with people using Viagra and any given town in the US.

[sendero]

16. I fail to see..

... what Viagra has or hasn't to do with anything. Either there is rape or their isn't.

[dipsydoodle]

17. K & R

.

[Bluerthanblue]

18. Rice's comments about Viagra don't negate the fact that rape is

used as a weapon in war-

To think that rape ISN'T occurring or hasn't occurred in this conflict is to be willfully naive and woefully ignorant.

I think Rice's supposed comments about the use of Viagra are stupid- but that doesn't change the reality of what happens.

:shrug:

[Distant Observer]

19. Absolutely. There have been accusations on both sides -- of most wars.

[meow mix]

20. k&r for attempting to talk sense to the nannering. suddenly rape and war exclude each other?

doesnt work well though, lol

[Hannah Bell]

24. that fact is not specific to libya.

[cali]

25. yes, duh. but that's hardly the point of the op

she fucking lied with the most inflammatory crap possible.

[joshcryer]

26. Do you have her full quote or are you relying on a contextless anonymous source for that allegation?

Thought so.

[cali]

27. and? what is wrong with anonymous quotes- particularly when they aren't

issued only by one person? Or do you think Reuters and every other fucking media outlet just made this up out of whole cloth to slam Rice and Obama? Occam's razor, my friend. YOU are grasping at straws.

[joshcryer]

29. If she said "there are reports..." it is not a lie.

If she said "we have evidence..." it would have been a lie.

I'm only wanting a full picture rather than baseless statements and uncritical thinking.

[Distant Observer]

22. Rice's emphasis on Arab League rationale for Intervention, will ignoring AU warnings was SHAMEFUILL

Either she was pretending that she did not know that the leaders of the Arab League vote
(Saudi and Qatar) were know Arch-Enemies of Gaddafi or she is just sadly ignorant of the dynamics
between the Arab League and the African Union.

She acted as if he Arab League stamp of approval was some moral justification even though these
countries are some of the most brutal in suppressing internal opposition.

[The Northerner]

23. K&R I can't believe she was even appointed nt

[Aerows]

28. BS stories like this don't help make the case

for our intervention in Libya - in fact, they make the case against it.