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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:30 AM
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What would you do? Really. What would you do?
What would you do with the increasingly poor, increasingly sick elderly? Euthanasia?

What would you do with the increasingly desperate, increasingly hopeless working poor? Jail them when they steal, not for drugs, but for food?

What would you do with the 30 year old single mother of two, who works two jobs and finds, too late, she has stage 4 ovarian cancer? Will you ask us to support her kids until they reach majority? Or would you simply put them out to fend for themselves, also without health care?

What would you do with the lifelong McJob holder who suddenly goes blind? Buy him a white cane and give him a voucher for half the cost of insurance he can't afford even with your voucher?

What would you do for the couple who need her income to supplement his, but she can't find a job that even covers the cost of the daycare for their two children? What would you do?

What would you do the family of four, who have sold everything they own of value, are working as many jobs as they can find, who have their children walking the sides of highways picking up cans, what would you do when they're finally made homeless by court order, their house taken from them and given to the mortgage holder?

What would you do for the homeless, couch-surfing heroin addict who finally sees the light and truly wants to be clean and sober? Would you do more than give her an autopen signed copy of Nancy's "Just Say No?"

What would you do for the two year old daughter of undocumented workers who contracts whooping cough while living in a migrant camp? What would you do when it spreads to other children? Would you jail the parents? Would just ship them back where they came from?

There are so many millions who need help. The number is growing. In the face of this, you wish to cut programs, telling us we can't afford them, while refusing to tax those who can well afford to pay.

In the face of all this pain, all this need, what would you do?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:35 AM
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1. Welp, you can't be asking me, as you already know what I would do!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:38 AM
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4. Soylent Green
In the year 2022, the population has grown to forty million people in New York City alone. Most housing is dilapidated and overcrowded, and the homeless fill the streets and line the fire escapes and stairways of buildings. Food as we know it in present times is a rare and expensive commodity. Most of the world's population survives on processed rations produced by the massive Soylent Corporation
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:41 AM
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8. You would make soylent green. Really?
I don't believe you.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:03 PM
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16. Perhaps STC knows what you would do, but not everyone
else knows.

If you're willing to share with others, we need your voice too.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:36 AM
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2. this is what some people do
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:57 PM
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21. THAT made me feel nauseous. Literally.
Besides the cruelty, the mob mentality is frightening.
Not to mention the similarity to staged republican thuggery protests we saw in Fla. at the vote recount.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:37 AM
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3. I would concentrate on creating genuine communities, instead
of relying on the artificial crap we have today that only serves to alienate people.
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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:39 AM
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5. Such an excellent question
but I'm afraid of the answer
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:40 AM
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6. I'd say: “Fellas, it’s time. It’s over. You’re not going to do it anymore,”
I’m going to look ‘em in the eye and say, “Fellas, you’ve had your fun. Your fun is over."

GOP Presidential Frontrunner, Donald Trump


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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:41 AM
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7. You don't understand. They just don't care.
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 09:42 AM by The Velveteen Ocelot
Starving beggars on the streets? They won't even see them through the tinted windows of their limos. They are either amorally greedy or so trapped in their own Randian ideology that the suffering of real people does not influence their opinions. The very wealthy never see or notice the poor. They are too busy deciding whether to buy a Jaguar or a Bentley, or where to send the children to boarding school this year, or where to spend the winter - should we take the yacht to Aruba? The greedy truly don't care. If you are suffering because you don't have enough money, that's your fault. You must be stupid or inferior and therefore you deserve your problems, so don't come whining to me about it.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:07 PM
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18. So, we can't get others to notice someone suffering
What can each of us do?

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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 09:48 AM
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9. What I would like to do is get rid of the people
that we have elected that allow this to continue. Democrats or Republicans that have no moral compass or compassion should be gotten rid of. They do not deserve our vote or our support. They can no longer count on mine.

What good does it do us to elect the lesser of two evils? No good at all, evil is evil. And as the guy said at William and Kate's wedding yesterday, "hate evil" and I do. I consider all of the things you pointed out that is happening to our people evil. And The people I and all of us have voted for are allowing it. So It's time to change.

The wars roll on and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. What did we vote for again?
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:02 AM
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10. I know what I'd do. I'd cut off all government services. They can...
...find their own way. Their just parasites. Who cares if they die?

Signed: Paul Ryan, POS-Wisconsin
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:11 AM
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11. Euthanasia's Not A Bad Idea
Actually, it's a horrible idea. But, if some one is sick and in pain and doesn't have the money to get treatment what's the alternative? Leaving them untreated to linger in pain as they slowly die? I honestly don't understand people who act like providing a lethal dose of barbiturates is such a great immorality but oppose the idea of providing health coverage based on medical need rather than bank account. What do they think is going to happen?
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:22 AM
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12. One word...........
.....UNITE. We may not be strong in wealth, but we are strong in numbers, and that alone is enough to combat these problems. It takes organization, mobilization, and constructive dissidence.

I am but one.........of many............of millions......and billions. I am strong......and I will prevail!


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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:44 AM
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13. "They're lazy" "It's God's will" "It's their own fault- they chose to have kids"
You see the excuses here at DU.

"No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die" This is the real plan. And of course die with a minimum of fuss and bother, out of sight, out of mind. Any children who make it to 16 or so can either go into the Army or into prison.


Back to the 1800's
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:54 AM
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14. help them all as much as we can
Somehow I bet if we took like 1/10th of the "defense" budget and funded some socialistic jobs programs, and maybe dispense with the asinine drug prohibition laws and take the money we can save from that (and maybe a little bit more of the "defense" budget) and create a real universal healthcare system, we can do away with a whole lot of misery.

But that's just pinko commie crazy talk.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:05 PM
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17. How about
eliminating taxes on capital gains and dividends?

The supremely honest Congressman Ryan has bravely proposed this answer to many of our nation's woes. So I am pretty sure it will work, since he's so honest and brave.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:23 PM
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19. Fuck Em.
Its their own fault.
They should pull themselves up and become Wall Street Bankers!





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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:34 PM
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20. Develop communities
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 12:41 PM by BanzaiBonnie
Caring, sharing, doing, supporting one another comes through community.

How do communities develop? How do you grow them?


Ahhhhhhhhh, more questions.

But you only get answers when you start asking the right questions.


The bigger question for me is - does our "story" - the mythos upon which all the major global societies are built, support life?

Unless you change the story you're acting out, all you'll be doing is forever putting out fires. The story I'm talking about is the one where there are dominators and there are subjects. The subjects are only there to serve the dominators.

So, I say that our story supporting life for some and not for others, is at the heart of the issue. It's time we found our hearts, united in action to first change the story within ourselves and then act on it in the world. We'll only be able to make effective, lasting change when we unite. We need to know that everyone counts and everyone is invited to the party because we need every voice.

And because I don't know exactly what the OP was asking I can only guess at this. Tag, you're it.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:02 PM
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22. What would I do if I was one of those people you talk about?
Because that's the real question. Not what would someone else do to help me. What would I do to survive IS the question.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:21 PM
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23. I read the OP differently
I thought the OP was asking what I would do to help someone, not what Iwould do if I needed help.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:01 PM
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26. That's the point of my post
Anyone can help others if they feel inclined, but what if you need help and no one there to 'save' you? There are lots of people in that condition. It's not like we have to imagine something that isn't a reality right now.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:32 PM
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25. We need one another, we are not in this alone
We didn't get to this place by ourselves and each of us needs help at sometime in our lives.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:29 PM
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24. Come on over and seed it for yourself
We're working to build compassionate caring communities over at Wishadoo!

We can't depend on anyone else doing the work. It's gonna take all of us together. Everyone is invited to this party. Be One Grass seed. Seed yourself at Wishadoo!, feed yourself on compassionate action, fertilize with your love of life and then watch it grow.
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