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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:38 AM
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Poll question: Why didn't Joseph McCarthy accuse people of being Trotskyists?
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:40 AM
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1. Other: Trotskyist just isn't a lyrical name to use to villify someone.
Stalinist just rolls off the tongue.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:41 AM
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2. Other: Where are the "Kitteh" and the "I like to vote" options?
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:43 AM
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3. Even then...
teabaggers couldn't spell.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:46 AM
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5. +1
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:43 AM
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4. he was afraid of the trotskyite-newsprint complex
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:52 AM
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6. What does this have to do with hating the British Royals & the wedding?
What, I ask you, what?







:evilgrin:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:53 AM
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7. False question, it presumes "Trotskyism" was a force then. It wasn't.
The Fourth International hardly had an effect in the United States.

Blaming communists was just in thing, like how some countries blame US imperialism or terrorists. You just need something to attack.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:53 AM
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8. They didn't hold state power.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:55 AM
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9. Other. He didn't know the difference between
Trotskyists and Stalinists. They were all commies to him.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:56 AM
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10. Probably because the 4th International wasn't a threat.
The average American probably had and likely still has no clue what Trotskyism is, but you say "Stalinism" and they see images of the USSR. It is a much better fear tactic. Besides the term "workers democracy" doesn't sound nearly as scary as "totalitarian hell-hole on par with the Third Reich."
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:20 PM
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12. And people who said that were dead ass wrong.
Stalinism made the Third Reich look like sweethearts.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:31 PM
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19. a mind-blowingly ignorant and/or revealing statement. wow. that's pretty extreme shit right there.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:56 PM
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23. no surprise
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:17 PM
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11. Not scary enough. nt
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:44 PM
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13. Other: McCarthy adored Trotsky's Clodagh Rogers impression.
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:21 PM
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14. McCarthy had secret crush
on Farrell Dobbs.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:35 PM
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16. How many other people besides you and me to you think
even knows who that is?
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:25 PM
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15. Because nobody knew what a Trotskyist was.
People obviously had heard about Stalin. I doubt many people would have known who Trotsky was.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:55 PM
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17. +1. People might have assumed Trotskyists were diarrhea sufferers.
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 01:55 PM by gkhouston
Or, perhaps, diarrhea enjoyers. x(
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:41 PM
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21. My Other vote is related to that idea
McCarthy had no idea what a Trotskyite was and all he knew about about Communism is that it was "bad" and that Communists were trying to destroy the American way of life.

I guess another good way of putting that is that he knew as much about Communism as he knew about that list of names he waved around.

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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:06 PM
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18. The first people prosecuted under the Smith Act were Trotskyists.
Additionally, to this day the Socialist Workers Party, a former Trotskyist group, does not have to disclose campaign contributions to the FEC because of the history of government repression of its members.


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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:34 PM
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20. Yep, the repression was there. BUT.........
it was there because they were Reds, not because they were a BRANCH of Reds. Like I said in my original post in this thread, the HUAC didn't differentiate betweens different Marxist groups. In thier eyes, they were ALL Reds.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:54 PM
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22. they did, actually. (main) targets were communists, not marxists per se.

(not all marxists are communists, and not all communists are marxists, despite the common misconception.)
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