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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 09:58 AM Jul 2018

One explanation for Manafort's refusal to flip on Trump has been his alleged fear

of being assassinated by Russian friends of Trump. Whether they'd use a bloody public shooting or a more discreet polonium tea party would make little difference to Paul---either way, he dies. Or, so the theory goes.

But, maybe I've watched too many movies. Doesn't the mob always play it safe and "rub out" anyone who MIGHT squeal---or change their mind about cooperating with "the G"? And, in "Saving Private Ryan", when the Germans riddled the apparently dead body of a US Army messenger, Tom Hanks explains "We do the same thing. The message survives as long as there is breath in the body."

It would seem to me that, on the street or in a cell, they will get to him if they want to. "The evidence survives as long as there is breath in the body". But, his best chance might be the publicity---notoriety---he'd get from putting Trump et al in prison. Being in the public eye might shield himfor at least a few years.

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One explanation for Manafort's refusal to flip on Trump has been his alleged fear (Original Post) Atticus Jul 2018 OP
Maybe Manafort's family has been threatened? NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #1
Paulie Walnuts is a dead man walking. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2018 #2
Trump would not want to give Manafort a pardon because... kentuck Jul 2018 #3
I've been wondering, if Trump did pardon Manafort, wouldn't he be free from jail, enough Jul 2018 #4
There may be other state charges against him that Trump cannot pardon? kentuck Jul 2018 #5

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
1. Maybe Manafort's family has been threatened?
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jul 2018

He has two daughters and might have grandchildren as well.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,435 posts)
2. Paulie Walnuts is a dead man walking.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jul 2018

He’s a target now and in the future for the rest of his existence. He owes tens of millions to oligarchs with NO WAY TO PAY THEM OFF. He can show loyalty to the oligarchs by shielding them from more exposure, but that’s small potatoes in comparison to tens of millions of money owed with no way to pay the interest, no less the principle.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
3. Trump would not want to give Manafort a pardon because...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:11 AM
Jul 2018

...he could not then take the Fifth. He would have to answer questions from the prosecution. That would be more dangerous for Trump than letting the trial drag on and on and on...

enough

(13,265 posts)
4. I've been wondering, if Trump did pardon Manafort, wouldn't he be free from jail,
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:16 AM
Jul 2018

and wouldn’t he immediately leave the country? So the threat of having to testify would be irrelevant at that point?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
5. There may be other state charges against him that Trump cannot pardon?
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jul 2018

I have heard some on DU say.

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