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(33,554 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)maxsolomon
(33,461 posts)AKA eternity.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,554 posts)crickets
(25,990 posts)(paraphrase)
Q: Do you think Yovanovitch's anti-corruption efforts upset anyone?
A: Well, any time you engage in anti-corruption policy, you are going to piss off somebody.
Wry smile at the irony from Kent, zing.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,554 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)CapnSteve
(219 posts)...and what are the NAZI-looking lapel pins the Rs are wearing? All it needs is a swastika; it's got the NAZI eagle above...
The round pin below is the standard Congress pin, just noticed that Stewart had something above it...
Ilsa
(61,712 posts)You name a vice president of a country that demanded that a country fire their prosecutor? What a straw man argument! He worded it to sound like Biden was the only corrupt politician in the world, when he isn't at all.
Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)So there really was nothing wrong with Trump being investigated when he ran for president. Thank you!
cstanleytech
(26,358 posts)due to actual evidence warranting said by law enforcement rather it was a President abusing his power to try and get a bogus investigation started.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Stewart insisted they can hold funds for certification yet Kent said that DOD HAD already certified!
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)CapnSteve
(219 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)That seat needs to be taken back!
redwitch
(14,954 posts)Stefanik is loathsome.
madaboutharry
(40,246 posts)and the aid was released that it doesn't matter that Trump tried to shake down Ukraine.
That is their argument.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)until the whisteblower contacted NSC lawyers and the IG's office. And, John Bolton still had to go around people to get it released.
ancianita
(36,224 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)"Your honor - Yes I broke into the bank and blew up the safe door and grabbed the money but I dropped it while running out of the door when the cops came so I didn't really steal anything" does not get one off the hook.
groundloop
(11,535 posts)All that repubs have to accomplish is to keep voters in red states from turning against repub Senators over this. If those red state voters can be placated enough so that not too many Senator seats are at risk then they've done their job.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)The idea is to get to the independents and others.
crickets
(25,990 posts)The aid was delayed for so long that Ukraine's defenses against Russia have eroded, and people have died who might otherwise still be alive. The holdup was illegal, the reasons for the holdup were illegal, and people died.
I do think that it was made clear at the beginning of the hearing that weakening our ally against Russia was a weakening of our own national defense, but that point needs to be made again and again.
Our national security and defense was needlessly weakened by corrupt and illegal behavior at the behest of the president sworn to protect the nation. He forswore his oath to the people, full stop.
/preaching to choir
Bettie
(16,149 posts)with their condescension and insistence that everyone but them is lying makes me feel stabby.
Is there a special course they take in how to be truly nasty pieces of garbage or it is a natural talent?
CapnSteve
(219 posts)bdamomma
(63,962 posts)or snarky. They are very abrasive.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)CrispyQ
(36,565 posts)I will never look at people who still identify with the GOP the same again. I'm not rude, unless they are, but I don't seek them out, ever.
Bettie
(16,149 posts)to see relatives who are 100% all in for him, I have to interact with them occasionally, but I read a lot at family gatherings these days because I just can't with this trump-supporting crap. According to their own stated beliefs and holy book, he's the worst possible person and yet, they think he's the spokesman for their god.
Once it is no longer fashionable to display hate so blatantly, they'll try to put their masks back on. I will never forget who they have shown me they are.
blogslut
(38,022 posts)that is all
ancianita
(36,224 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)bdamomma
(63,962 posts)crickets
(25,990 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)and he asks them if they are and no they are not.
Wasn't Drumpf NOT going to "watch"?
Squinch
(51,087 posts)I would hope some Republican, during these hearings, will answer, "Does that mean would I ever vote for Trump? The answer is absolutely, I would never vote for him."
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)is that the GOP allows Drumpf to assign civil servants who may or may not be GOPers, to be a GOPer and not "non-partisan", and that has to be smacked down.
Squinch
(51,087 posts)one or a couple of them to say it. And say it with disgust in their voices.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)was the only one to do that "publicly". The rest are cowards.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)(he is not running again)
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)TlalocW
(15,394 posts)But I'm not the best at recognizing important plot twists.
TlalocW
gay texan
(2,489 posts)It's all the black guys fault
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Extortion and Bribery right outta the gate!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)And PATIENT !!!!
DeminPennswoods
(15,295 posts)nt
elleng
(131,391 posts)Gothmog
(145,908 posts)Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)I don't get why he's doing this.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)"Is attempted murder a crime?" "Is attempted robbery a crime?" "Is attempted extortion and bribery a crime?"
shanti
(21,675 posts)His face was red too.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)In the law, ALL of those things that were "attempted" ARE crimes!
crickets
(25,990 posts)I understand his desire to remain unbiased, but that was strange.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)ananda
(28,906 posts)nt
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)dweller
(23,704 posts)your time is dwindling ...
✌🏼
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Kent: "I'm here as a fact witness, your constitutional obligation is to consider the evidence before you."
backtoblue
(11,348 posts)ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Stupid blustering fools.
backtoblue
(11,348 posts)bdamomma
(63,962 posts)is a jerk. They are just so nasty. They again, are all complicit in this, repigs that is. Gasping for air aren't they.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)bdamomma
(63,962 posts)the grown ups are.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)elleng
(131,391 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)helpmenow
(16 posts)stevil
(1,537 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)It seems that Nunes will be doing nothing. It'll be the Gym/Ratcliff show.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Uh Gym, stop giving away your shower thoughts.
MuseRider
(34,136 posts)little annoying, buzzy bugs that are too fast to step on or swat out of the sky, in your face and simply annoying without any obvious benefit.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)Washingtons Heck (D) referred to the calls released memorandum. Up til now theyve all used transcript. There is no released transcript!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Has our side been playing along with that fiction?
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)it was also repeatedly said by the Dems. Until the guy from Washington state used the *correct* wordmemorandum...as in MEMO!
Hope the Dem powers-that-be will send out a *memo* to committee Dems to not feed into the read the transcript bullshit! Given that the hearings are live its a really good time to get the CORRECT wording out there. There is NO FUCKING RELEASED TRANSCRIPT!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,554 posts)He practices being annoying, right?
blogslut
(38,022 posts)Is that your volume all the time?
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He was bracing for it...
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)"pound the table" (because both the law and the facts are against them).
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)helpmenow
(16 posts)nolabear
(42,004 posts)He freeforms so much I cant keep up.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Joe Biden was VP for a long time, so it makes sense for him to work with career civil service people. Which is where that meme basically started.
Aviation Pro
(12,243 posts)...Gym.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Thank you, I wish someone would say that to his weasel face.
Bayard
(22,233 posts)Not asking any questions, just holding forth. Now he's railing about not knowing who the whistleblower is, but that he's allied with Biden.
Good laugh from Rep Welch--I would invite the person who started this whole process to come in. Mr. tRump can sit right here in front.
Richard D
(8,818 posts). . . be any more annoying? I doubt it.
ancianita
(36,224 posts)YOU WANT TREY GOWDY, GYM! HE said he started it all.
IcyPeas
(21,948 posts)false the second through fortieth time they said it will be false the last time they say it
GOOD!
elleng
(131,391 posts)helpmenow
(16 posts)nolabear
(42,004 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)elleng
(131,391 posts)helpmenow
(16 posts)the whistleblower. Welch came up and said I would also love if the guy who started it all would come and speak..then said..trump is more than welcome to come testify.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)budkin
(6,730 posts)What did he say?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)and invited the one who started it all - the President - to testify!
Aviation Pro
(12,243 posts)A red letter day and the dawn rises.
Ride Roherrim.
crickets
(25,990 posts)SpankMe
(2,974 posts)...at being a total asshole.
crickets
(25,990 posts)backtoblue
(11,348 posts)Cant translate laughinh
blogslut
(38,022 posts)I summarize:
"If the republicans want the person who started it all to testify, the president is welcome to come here and do so."
Roland99
(53,342 posts)crickets
(25,990 posts)by supporting Ukraine was also key. YES! This was a point that dearly needed to be made.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)babylonsister
(171,111 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)I think trying to do a useless point of inquiry and was cut off.
elleng
(131,391 posts)babylonsister
(171,111 posts)crickets
(25,990 posts)She got as far as "you yourself mischaracterized the call, in fact, in the first open hearing... you had a parody..."
At that point Schiff interrupted with, "The gentlewoman will suspend. By unanimous consent will be happy to enter the call record into the record." He then recognized the next person to speak as she smiled smugly and put the paper away.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)so thanks because it sounded like she was doing her own little shit show.
crickets
(25,990 posts)babylonsister
(171,111 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Bringing up Ghouliani's smear campaign.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #110)
budkin This message was self-deleted by its author.
crickets
(25,990 posts)I have to say again, the Democrats' questioning is so much more quietly to the point. It's a relief when the shouting, overfast talking and smarmy asides are absent.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)about having "the facts" and "the law" on your side. When you have neither, you pound the table like the GOP did.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)I see where shes going
If a president can remove an ambassador at any time, why was there a smear campaign?
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)crickets
(25,990 posts)Schiff shut it down by immediately putting it into the record and moving on. That little ploy isn't working out for them.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)crickets
(25,990 posts)when he made the point that a commanding officer could not hold up action on the battlefield, placing his troops at risk until someone provided him a personal benefit, without betraying his responsibility to the nation and the men and women under his command. He pointed out that such behavior would require disciplinary action, a court martial.
Bam.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)He took over Tammy Duckworth's seat when she moved to the Senate. He's a Princeton (undergrad)/Harvard (law) grad.
You can feel he had a good grasp of history and its impact, including within the military.
Lonestarblue
(10,164 posts)How can that be correct? He had received no aid and knew it was overdue. Had he just know connected the holdup to the promise to create and announce dirt on the Bidens? I was listening on the radio, and it seemed confusing.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)that he figured something was up but as a head of state, he wasn't going to voice that "publicly".
budkin
(6,730 posts)SO OBVIOUS.
klook
(12,174 posts)that I would like Amb. Taylor to record the outgoing message for my answering machine. What a voice.
More pertinent -- both he and Mr. Kent are obviously straight shooters, and both have delivered testimony today that is devastating for the Trump cult.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)IcyPeas
(21,948 posts)false the first time they said it, false the second through fortieth time they said it will be false the last time they say it!!
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)(not sure if that will be public or what)
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)The vote to table that motion prevailed and they are now adjourned.
yellowcanine
(35,704 posts)And they talk about process. They don't know the process (rules).
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)and of course that was a FAIL.
yellowcanine
(35,704 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)And as the minority, are out-voted every time.
Bayard
(22,233 posts)Done for the day
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Motion to bring in whistle blower was tabled.
llmart
(15,567 posts)I'll be flipping between CBS, ABC and NBC just to see how they summarize what's happened.
BumRushDaShow
(130,013 posts)Just watched a Schiff presser.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)How long until tRump is removed from office? Now that Americans see him for what he is it should be asap in my opinion.