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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYPD is now straight-up fabricating assaults on police-officers.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nypd-storms-blm-activist-derrick-ingrams-building-with-two-dozen-cars-dogs-and-a-helicopter?ref=homeDid I get this series of events correctly?
The NYPD planned to arrest him for assaulting an officer.
The NYPD DID remember to bring a whole army to storm this guy's place.
The NYPD somehow DID NOT remember to bring an actual arrest-warrant for this so-dangerous-we-need-to-bring-a-whole-army super-villain.
It's obvious what the NYPD had planned: Trick him into opening his door, attack him, and when he defends himself, arrest him for assaulting a police-officer.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)since Giuliani was Mayor.
JHB
(37,166 posts)...and fought any attempt to hold police accountable for them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/11/16/more-on-the-time-rudy-giuliani-helped-incite-a-riot-of-racist-cops/
Opinion by Radley Balko
November 16, 2016 at 11:47 a.m. EST
In part of my post yesterday, I noted that during his first successful campaign for electoral office, Giuliani helped incite a riot involving thousands of mostly white, mostly drunk police officers. On Twitter, Aaron Stewart-Ahn sent along this local news account of the incident:
Its worth noting that this report came shortly after the riots. They were actually quite a bit worse than described. Again, heres longtime New Yorker and civil libertarian Nat Hentoff recounting them in a recent piece published at the Cato Institute:
Yet the uniformed police present did little to stop them. Why? Because the rioters were nearly all white, off-duty NYPD officers. They were participating in a Patrolmens Benevolent Association demonstration against Mayor David Dinkins call for a Civilian Complaint Review Board and his creation earlier that year of the Mollen Commission, formed to investigate widespread allegations of misconduct within the NYPD. In the center of the mayhem, standing on top of a car while cursing Mayor Dinkins through a bullhorn, was mayoral candidate Rudy Giuliani.
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Newsday columnist Jimmy Breslin described the racist conduct in chilling detail:
The cops held up several of the most crude drawings of Dinkins, black, performing perverted sex acts, he wrote. And then, here was one of them calling across the top of his beer can held to his mouth, How did you like the n*****s beating you up in Crown Heights?
The off-duty cops were referring to a severe beating Breslin suffered while covering the 1991 Crown Heights riots in Brooklyn.
Breslin continued: Now others began screaming How do you like what the n*****s did to you in Crown Heights?
Now you got a n****r right inside City Hall. How do you like that? A n****r mayor.
And they put it right out in the sun yesterday in front of City Hall, Breslin wrote. We have a police force that is openly racist
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)Profile and "pre-arrest" various group leaders?
getagrip_already
(15,010 posts)This is a playbook event. It isn't a rogue squad out there. To mobilize a copter and backup teams they need a commander and support staff. This isn't an organic or spontaneious collection of resources.
Someone is issuing these tactics and a lot of terror cells are picking them up. This is straight out of putins playbook. It's not hard to figure out where this is originating.
It was clear when they didn't knock the door down and toss stun grenades that they had no warrant. Police with an arrest warrant don't need a warrant to enter a building to make an arrest, even if the suspect doesn't usually visit there. They just need probable cause the target is inside and they can enter. You can argue that one till yu are blue in the face but it has been settled law for decades.
So if this is a playbook tactic, you will see it over and over, and there really is no way to protect against it since every officer in the cell will back up the play.
They think that if they cut the head off the movement and arrest organizers it will stop it. It plays well to the base. Maybe they are right, and maybe they are dealing with starfish. We don't know yet.
Is it chilling public participation in protests? You decide, but we are seeing massive police power in several arrests, people being charged in ways that could get them life in prison or fines beyond nyones means to pay, and beatings and even disapearances.
But unlike during the civil rights movement, it is being done in secret. There are few videos of most of it. The terror cells remain anonymous without even having to wear an identifying code that could be traced back to them by the departments themselves. Nameless. Faceless. No trail.
We aren't far from wondering where people went. Beware free helicopter rides.
Kitchari
(2,171 posts)Thanks for the insight
dalton99a
(81,709 posts)safeinOhio
(32,764 posts)the cops?
I would think a judge might grant it in this case.
PatrickforO
(14,608 posts)after they instigate brutality.
I am very pro-union, but unions need to be negotiating wages and pension plans, and making sure someone accused of something gets due process. Problem is, these police unions have gone overboard with that. And what the heck is de Blasio doing?
paleotn
(18,015 posts)and the departments the represent hollowed out and rebuilt. There's volumes written by the other side on how to break unions. Break the goddamn thing!!
I'm pro-union, am in a union, sit on the executive board of a union, and when I see the NY police's union president on TV I have to shut it off because he's such a belligerant, puglistic jerk.
They pretty much run the mayor around with a dog collar.
In state negotiations (I'm NJ) for pay (I'm a state employee, being a teacher), we see what the police unions get that the other state workers would only dream of. They are a special class, created by themselves over the years, and they are formidable to fight.
sdfernando
(4,962 posts)police unions in big cities and large urban areas have shown themselves to be the same the mafia and its leaders are nothing but mob bosses. They shake down businesses, same as the mafia. Demand payoffs to "look the other way" same as the mafia. Frame innocent people, plant evidence, steal evidence, kill people with impunity.
The bad apples have rotted the entire barrel. The so called "good cops" are letting the bad do their business and looking the other way.
How does that make them a good cop when they see a cop committing a crime and don't take action on it?
These unions need to be broken! Serious and EFFECTIVE citizen oversight needs to be implemented with the power to get bad cops off the street and fired. Publicly available discipline records, nationwide database with consequences to local law enforcement that hires someone off that list.
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)... at the same fuckin time.
Kitchari
(2,171 posts)rocktivity
(44,588 posts)Remember when it turned out that he retired from Bain Capital two years "retroactively"? Now the cops can issue arrest warrants retroactive to the crime?
rocktivity
MurrayDelph
(5,307 posts)The claim was that he was "resisting arrest," but he was never told he was under arrest. The cop with a short-person complex was slapping him on the belly, Mr. Garner said "don't touch me," short cop didn't like being talked-back to, and choked him to the ground, triggering the heart attack.
Eric Garner was killed for resisting assault under color of authority.
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)The post says that police are claiming he damaged the hearing of an officer by using a bullhorn once.
That sounds sketchy. It literally sounds like they're claiming that his speech damaged an officer. That is such b*******.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/07/police-unions-slam-nypd-retreat-at-home-of-cop-assault-suspect/
DENVERPOPS
(8,903 posts)or the next day, People should not expect the police to come to their aid.......or the State's National Guard......
Sturgis in So Dakota is going to be fascinating to watch.......a quarter of a million drunken motorcyclists, crowded together in bars for a week. Oh, my.........
Sadly, they will all return to their homes across the U.S. and cause a new crisis by spreading the virus across the entire U.S. Too bad they don't have to stay in SoDak and let the pro trump governor have to deal with all the people getting sick and dying.........
Texin
(2,600 posts)instigate a confrontation in which they could allege assault/attempted assault. When he declined to engage and closed his door when they could't produce a viable arrest warrant for trumped*-up charges, couldn't lawfully do anything further.