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tableturner

(1,686 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:11 PM Aug 2020

Can something actually be DONE about the current USPS slowdown?

I've heard state attorneys general and others talk about lawsuits, which sounds like the responses to so many other illegal and/or unconstitutional actions by Trump, when lawsuits did not result in timely resolutions. I cannot imagine that lawsuits in this case would actually cause a remediation of the problem by the time people will be sending in their ballots.

So are we stuck in a scenario in which mail in voting is throttled, causing direct disenfranchisement, along with massively long lines at the polls that would effectively cause a lot more disenfranchisement? Will we be left with "Well....if Trump had not throttled the mail, followed by massive legal actions to prohibit the counting of late arriving votes, in concert with Republican officials in battleground states going along with the vote stealing plan, we would have won the election"?

Since Trump's election, we have repeatedly seen us Democrats proclaim our intentions to "go to the streets" to stop any possible upcoming illegal and unconstitutional acts by Trump, followed by those acts being committed by Trump, followed by howls of outrage from Democrats, followed by great crowds NOT "going to the streets", followed by an angry realization by us Democrats that the illegal and/or unconstitutional acts are an unerasable fait accompli.

Right now I'm hoping that Democrats hold strong and force things via the negotiations, but even that probably won't work because even if that were to happen, just like so many times before, Trump and his stooge at the USPS would most likely thumb their noses at Congress and in effect say "Make me!", only to have us give up because of a lack of real power and time.

We did not "go to the streets" when Comey was fired, we did not do it with all the Friday night massacres, and we did not do it when he committed dozens of heretofore unimaginable authoritarian acts. I think our leaders in Congress should publicly call for massive protests that would not be stopped until Trump and his USPS stooge relent.

Isn't it finally time to actually rise up against this attempted fascist power grab? Trump won't stop on his own. Right now, it seems like it's us or nothing.

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Can something actually be DONE about the current USPS slowdown? (Original Post) tableturner Aug 2020 OP
Short answer: No. Laelth Aug 2020 #1
Yes. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #2
I thought I read some places couldn't use private delivery SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #8
If a person puts his or her ballot in the mail, how will... VarryOn Aug 2020 #3
I'm in New Hampshire PatSeg Aug 2020 #7
short answer YES. drray23 Aug 2020 #4
nothing can be done as long as GOP in congress don't care beachbumbob Aug 2020 #5
Will probably help if CV19 subsides -- sick, quarantined workers and more people Hoyt Aug 2020 #6

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Short answer: No.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:19 PM
Aug 2020

Long answer: Probably not, and we don’t really have enough time between now and November 3 to do anything effective.

-Laelth

OAITW r.2.0

(24,813 posts)
2. Yes.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:24 PM
Aug 2020

Jeff Bezos could offer his delivery network to replace a crippled USPS in the next 6 months. Offer to donate Amazon fufillment charges to short fund the USPS. Seems Jeff would really kick Trump in the ass and become an American hero. Trump would go nuts.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
3. If a person puts his or her ballot in the mail, how will...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:25 PM
Aug 2020

they know it's received by the appropriate authorities to be counted? When I've voted absentee in the past, I hand-delivered my ballot to the count courthouse. There was know tracking for me to verify it had been received if had had sent it via US mail.

PatSeg

(47,780 posts)
7. I'm in New Hampshire
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 PM
Aug 2020

I can go online and check to be sure my ballot was received. There are other states that do this as well, but I don't know which ones.

drray23

(7,639 posts)
4. short answer YES.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:26 PM
Aug 2020

its not the first time Trump pulls illegitimate bullshit. he had to back off before when under enough pressure. for example travel bans, immigration stuff locking up kids, etc..

i think that on the usps , enough people from both sides are getting pissed off and pushing back. its also starting to affect business. its gonna blow in his face.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. Will probably help if CV19 subsides -- sick, quarantined workers and more people
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:41 PM
Aug 2020

shopping on-line.

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