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DeJoy has already done enough damage to the post Office to make sure of that. And he continues to fuck things up even more there. It will not be fixed by election day.
So the real battle is to get an overwhelming majority in the Swing States. So that even when Trump has the DHS goons take ballots off of mail trucks and burn them, he still can't overcome the vote against him.
What a sad state of affairs when the President is openly trying to steal an election and his party and the Press normalize it.
And we are already facing this.
Absentee Ballot Rejections Could Triple In Battleground States
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/absentee-ballot-rejections-could-triple-in-battleground-states_n_5f565739c5b6578026d188d6
sweetloukillbot
(11,163 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)Call them fraudulent enables him to move aggressively to stop them from being counted.
Do not underestimate what he is capable of.
jimfields33
(16,145 posts)I swear I heard that. I actually hope that false.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/us/politics/postal-service-late-ballots.amp.html
850,000 ballots were thrown out according to google.
Kaleva
(36,404 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)By just over 10,000. Make sure a few more never get counted, from the right precincts, and you win the State.
Kaleva
(36,404 posts)Because of the delays in mail delivery and we know that rural areas tend to support Trump.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)I don't think many people are eager to vote in person during a pandemic.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)The Democrats and Pelosi wanted to desperately shore up mail in voting because of COVID. Trump, DeJoy, Barr and the GOP are doing everything they can to discredit it and stop it.
Yes about Rural voters normally. But now you have the President targeting where the votes will be delayed.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)Even my state now has one per county.
Dropping ballot in a drop box would avoid having a ballot delayed when going back. Of course it still has to arrive to you first.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)But most people just want to vote and be done. They don't have the time or where with all to go the extra mile.
Making it harder to vote is the GOP game.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)to go vote in person during a pandemic.
Especially if there are lines an so on.
why mail in voting is so important. It should be unassailable. But Trump is trying to screw it up.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)Remember Trump won by about 70,000 in 3 States.
jimfields33
(16,145 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Surveillance video shows bags of mail being dumped in Glendale, AZ
https://postalemployeenetwork.com/news/2020/09/surveillance-video-shows-bags-of-usps-mail-being-dumped-in-glendale-ca-spa-parking-lot/
LisaL
(44,985 posts)NT
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Rental trucks are inconspicuous enough compared to a truck with the USPS logo.
Trump will lose this election if left to only legal means but will do anything to stay in power at this point.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)My guess is somebody was contracted to deliver mail but didn't want to do the work.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)And both make mail in ballots more likely to not get there, and make people think it's not worth it to vote.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Events such as this with truckloads of mail goes a long way to undermine confidence in the system. Exactly what Trump, et al are pushing for to make the election results questionable.
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)BlueWavePsych
(2,641 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,930 posts)that has excellent early voting. I had originally thought I'd do vote by mail, but no. I'm going to do it in person early. If I get to a polling place and there's a line I'm not comfortable with, I'll just return later. I'll start on the first day of early voting so I have lots of time to make sure I can vote safely.
I'm in New Mexico.
roamer65
(36,748 posts)Check and make sure they are received as well.
tapper
(145 posts)I live in walking distance of the county courthouse, so Ive decided to vote early, in person. The mail stopped being sorted Locally several years ago, so that it takes about 3 days to deliver mail to a place a half-mile away.
Unfortunately, Polls show Trump in the lead, albeit smaller than 4 Years ago. Senate and House races have somewhat better chances of turning blue.