99-1, the Senate adopts amendment offered by Sens. Susan Collins and Joe Manchin to exclude...

[demmiblue]

99-1, the Senate adopts amendment offered by Sens. Susan Collins and Joe Manchin to exclude "upper-income" earners from stimulus checks. It was adopted to the budget resolution, which is non-binding. But it's clear where the view of the Senate is on this topic. Rand Paul was a no

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[TwilightZone]

1. Rand - grandstanding jackass

Just like his daddy. I still can't believe Ron was a favorite around here (by some) for a while.

[redstatebluegirl]

2. What do they consider "upper income"?

We showed a good income in 2019, then I lost my job at the end of 2020. I hate these damn tests. I don't want millionaires to get any money but this is nonsense.

[CaptainTruth]

5. +1!

[Hekate]

13. I sympathize, but the only way to determine that "the millionaires" don't get what they don't need

...is (wait for it) a “test.”

All the best in the new year

[Mr.Bill]

23. Well, last time some of those millionaires

got millions in business loans they will probably never have to pay back.

[Irish_Dem]

14. This is my concern. A person's 2019 income means nothing. So many have lost jobs

in the past year.

[regnaD kciN]

21. Indeed...

I've been retired from a "salaried job" for years, but my wife was employed by the federal government until she hit the retirement age last April. We had a decent income in 2019, but are now getting used to being seniors on a fixed income. Not to be whiny, but it will cause difficulty if they rule that we don't get the stimulus because we were earning too much back when we weren't both retired.

[Irish_Dem]

22. Yes, so many examples of why the GOP plan is terrible.

[Fiendish Thingy]

32. Over $50k last I heard. Nt

[Shrike47]

3. I guess I should already know, but how much is an upper income?

[obamanut2012]

4. 50k

[redstatebluegirl]

8. What about married couples?

[tavernier]

10. 100,000

[leftstreet]

15. These senators spend that much a month on their stock brokers

fuck em

[sweetloukillbot]

29. Nowhere does it say 50K is upper income.

[obamanut2012]

33. They have said it all day

And Joe seems okay with it.

[sweetloukillbot]

34. They've said 50K is a compromise for the stimulus

They haven't said it is "upper income."
This amendment had NOTHING to do with the initial cutoff for the stimulus, it has to do with the upper end of the cutoff, but that hasn't stopped people from playing telephone.

Again, Bernie voted for this - do you think he considers $50K to be "upper income"? How about Ossoff? Wyden? Any of the people being praised for pushing for 75K?

Or do you think they may not want families making $300K to get anything, especially since that was a big talking point in December?

[ecstatic]

30. Wow! nt

[tavernier]

9. 100,000 per couple as well

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. For a RepubliQan, it's everyone not starving except "my" buddies.

[redstatebluegirl]

12. How many of those morons could live on $50,000 with 4 kids?

[tavernier]

6. As long as the stimulus package amount doesn't change

and the money saved goes into other stimulus projects, such as Covid vaccine distribution, etc, I’m good with that.

[regnaD kciN]

19. It really depends on what the cut-off level is...

Keep in mind that every American who found $600 pitifully insignificant, heard that an additional $1,400 was coming, then find out "oh, yes, there's going to be a new set of checks, but you earned too much (in 2019, when you might have had a job you don't now) to qualify, so other people will be getting the checks, but not you" is going to be one more person who won't be inclined to turn out in 2022 and 2024 on behalf of us (because, even if this was a "centrist" move, Democrats went along with it 100%, and they'll view it as a personal betrayal).

[LizBeth]

7. What income does that hit. Thanks.

[Popcorn 51]

16. Hello stupids -

Don't base it on 2019 income. Base it on 2020.

[VMA131Marine]

18. Most people have not yet filed tax returns for 2020

Stimulus payments would be delayed until after April

[Popcorn 51]

20. Would serve as an incentive to file as soon as possible. nt

[dixiechiken1]

17. This is/was a solution looking for a problem.

It's completely tone-deaf and there was no need for this. Repubs are still not going to miraculously join hands and sing kumbaya when the stimulus comes up for a vote.

So much for "go big"...

[h2ebits]

24. Are the children also receiving the $1,400?

For the $600 one, children in the family also received $600

[stopbush]

25. If you live in WV and earn $50k, you get the $1400.

If you live in San Francisco - where you need to earn $157k to have the same buying power as that person making $50k in WV re: CoL adjustment - you don’t get the $1400.

Having means testing WITHOUT ADJUSTING THAT MEANS BASED ON CoL is an anti-urban, anti-Blue state policy!

[BarackTheVote]

26. Okay, according to NBC

the amendment doesn’t define ‘upper income.“ So there’s no raw number, yet.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-democrats-split-who-should-receive-1-400-checks-n1256788

[safeinOhio]

27. Question?

Gross, net or taxable(minus deductions)?

[sweetloukillbot]

35. Has not been mentioned in this motion

Just like 50K, 75K, or whatever K weren't called "high income". People are throwing out misinformation and not paying attention to what was actually voted on.

[safeinOhio]

36. Thank you very much.

So it could go either way by 5K to 10K.

[sweetloukillbot]

37. My interpretation is that it's targeting legit upper class people

Who would’ve squeaked in a little relief due to family size and the way the previous bill was structured.
I just can’t believe that Bernie would do a 180, Biden would misjudge the temperature in the Senate, and Dem leadership would be so bad at counting votes they would bring this without any plan for it passing.

[kacekwl]

28. This is supposed to be a covid relief bill. There

was no fucking Covid in 2019. I lost my job in early 2020 so my 2019 income means shit. People don't need help when they were working they need help for 2020. Are you going to determine whether restaurants need stimulus based on 2019 business ? Come on.

[sweetloukillbot]

31. I believe this is targeted at people making six figures who still qualified for some relief

This isn't saying that 50K or 75K is "upper income." It's targeting the people who made 300K and still got a few hundred - something that got a lot of attention when the House passed its $1400 bonus stimulus around Christmas.

Do you believe Bernie would vote for calling 50K "upper income"?