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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMeanwhile, it's raining INDICTMENTS today
BREAKING] Anthony Mariotto has been indicted by a federal grand jury on five countsLink to tweet
BREAKING] Couy Griffin has been indicted by a federal grand jury on two counts
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BREAKING] Nathaniel DeGrave has been indicted by a federal grand jury on nine counts
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BYE BYE BYE
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Maybe he bragged about his crimes on the interwebs.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Nine counts!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,367 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)...DeGrave and Sandlin are seen in photos in court filings among flag-waving Trump supporters inside the Capitol, and documents cite internet posts attributed to Sandlin soliciting money to make the trip.
Josiah Colt, Nate DeGrave and myself have already booked and paid for our trip to Washington, D.C., Sandlin is quoted saying in a Dec. 31 post, but we could use your help!
Im going to be there to show support for our president and to do my part to stop the steal and stand behind Trump when he decides to cross the rubicon, he is quoted saying in a Dec. 23 post...
https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/article_1730569e-efb1-5f30-8c91-36e6115844d7.html
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)yellowcanine
(35,704 posts)soldierant
(6,952 posts)live love laugh
(13,213 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,580 posts)Great concept, great execution.
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srose58089
(214 posts)From the criminal complaint:
In this post, SANDLIN referred to two other individuals who have also booked their trips:
Josiah Colt2 and Nate DeGrave. The post also contains a link to a GoFundMe webpage3
appearing to depict SANDLIN in a car holding what appears to be a semi-automatic rifle and the
caption Patriots Defending Our Country On Jan. 6th, organized by Ronnie Sandlin.
I can not cut and paste the relevant parts from Facebook but they are in the complaint
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)While some act alone, very few are actual "lone wolves." I quickly grabbed this from a 2017 The Guardian article for the figures it offered then, but social media activity's gotten a lot of notice and no doubt there's a lot of more recent data on violent domestic groups. Although some must have become more discreet, it's probable, as guessed, that Darth himself told the FBI about it.
More recent research has underlined the garrulous nature of violent extremists. In 2013, researchers at Pennsylvania State University examined the interactions of 119 lone-wolf terrorists from a wide variety of ideological and faith backgrounds. The academics found that, even though the terrorists launched their attacks alone, in 79% of cases others were aware of the individuals extremist ideology, and in 64% of cases family and friends were aware of the individuals intent to engage in terrorism-related activity. Another more recent survey found that 45% of Islamic militant cases talked about their inspiration and possible actions with family and friends. While only 18% of rightwing counterparts did, they were much more likely to post telling indicators on the internet.
Few extremists remain without human contact, even if that contact is only found online. Last year, a team at the University of Miami studied 196 pro-Isis groups operating on social media during the first eight months of 2015. These groups had a combined total of more than 100,000 members. Researchers also found that pro-Isis individuals who were not in a group who they dubbed online lone wolf actors had either recently been in a group or soon went on to join one.
There is a much broader point here. Any terrorist, however socially or physically isolated, is still part of a broader movement.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)These terrorists are far from lone wolves. I've heard them on audio, talking about their training camps. We need to find those.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)various actors, government and private, action groups and individuals, are known to be linked, if not yet proven in court.
This has catalyzed and empowered new and stronger laws related to domestic terrorism, more similar to the surveillance, charges and sentencing allowed for international terrorism. For obvious reasons, Republicans have blocked it as the threats have built, but now Democrats have the majority and a president waiting to sign. They've no doubt already started work on them in various committees now.
bottomofthehill
(8,364 posts)Blue Owl
(50,575 posts)brewens
(13,660 posts)I do a good Mr. Burns and every time I'd give her the "Simpson eh? Hmmm", as if it was the first time I ever heard of her. She loved it.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)mjvpi
(1,417 posts)In their charges. If these people had more melanin...... Im just sayin
TeamPooka
(24,294 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Captain Zero
(6,863 posts)For damages against Trump, other speakers at the Ellipse, organizers and these guys who followed through and killed Capitol Police.
efhmc
(14,736 posts)Captain Zero
(6,863 posts)It's only take a preponderance of the evidence to win a civil suit for big bucks.
efhmc
(14,736 posts)benld74
(9,911 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... it's "coy" or "cow-ee" or "coo-ee" or "ko-ee" or "ko-oo-ee" or "ko-you-ee"
dhill926
(16,387 posts)niyad
(113,921 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,707 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,395 posts)2, 5, & 9 counts.
Nine felony charges!!!
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)IronLionZion
(45,637 posts)hibbing
(10,113 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,257 posts)Guantanamo Bay.
RussBLib
(9,057 posts)maybe they are waiting until this second Impeachment is over to toss a few indictments Donny's way
2naSalit
(86,934 posts)Since they disrespect it so much.
gademocrat7
(10,684 posts)Aussie105
(5,485 posts)Especially the legal action from the makers of voting machines, who are suing various entities who besmirched their reputation. Over and over again.
The mad days of irresponsible Trump-Think are over. Let the legal system do its thing to redress the imbalance and insanity!
Did they really think there would be no kickback, no attempt at redress?
What were they expecting?
Total lawlessness, or a flurry of Trump pardons?
orangecrush
(19,665 posts)Gets off scott free
empedocles
(15,751 posts)triron
(22,030 posts)calimary
(81,594 posts)More, please!
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)Link to tweet
[BREAKING] Tommy Allan has been indicted by a federal grand jury on six counts #SeditionTrack
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[BREAKING] Cody Connell has been indicted by a federal grand jury on eight counts
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calimary
(81,594 posts)Specifically: "YAY! YAY! YAY!"
dchill
(38,612 posts)former9thward
(32,146 posts)How come none of that is in the tweets? Being charged is not the point if none are particularly serious.
This is a full list of those charged:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
I have glanced thru the charges and very few are serious, especially for those with no priors. Federal sentencing guidelines would apply for those found guilty and many of these are probation eligible.
mnmoderatedem
(3,734 posts)Many Are Getting Arrested.
Yes an old joke by now, but it still applies.