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Insurrection Day: Pre-Impeachment Trial links Pt.16
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215069318
Impeachment Day Two:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215086998
[10:19 AM, 2/9/2021]: Violent rebellions, our worst nightmares -- if we accept the Trump defense that its too late to impeach, it will mean any president can do what trump did. They are using clips of him saying to fight to take the capitol... followed by many voices saying take the Capitol.
Just perfect clips...Sound enhanced to hear insurrectionists freaking...Reminding Americans of the stakes.
OMG, that clip will be studied for centuries.
They will fight back, but just saying...the blowback to RepubliQans will be lasting...Q-Shaman and his buddies saying Ted Cruz will love this as they rifle through Senate's stuff.
Showing Eugene Goodman hitting a rioter, distracting people from the Senate, chasing him, showing cop being trampled
All annotated. Trump clips. Timeline is devastating.
[10:26 AM, 2/9/2021]: The senators will need to cut off their own balls to argue in trump's defense...they will, but just saying...the blowback to RepubliQans will be lasting...Q-Shaman saying Cruz will love this as they rifle through Senate's stuff. Masterpiece
RepubliQans will say it was propaganda
but will make them look like Vichy, deserve head shaving.
[10:38 AM, 2/9/2021]: Sorry I am sharing thoughts with dozens on my committees of correspondence.
[10:38 AM, 2/9/2021]: Cut their balls!! I am in shock now!!
[10:40 AM, 2/9/2021]: I am blunt when needed
blunt knife. Shave their bellies with a rusty razor. RepubliQans will be hard-pressed to go forward. But they are shameless.
Rep. Joe Neguse first black member of Congress elected in Colorado. Using poet's tools to reach hearts. Don't need to be a constitutional scholar to see
Made the same arguments Trumps side will make
that Senate lacks jurisdiction as former official. Senate outraged by that defense in Grant's day. Press could betray the country, avoid impeachment and leave office, come back like a Trumpy vampire...hahaha I added the vampire part.
[10:52 AM, 2/9/2021]: This is a historic moment and thread. Because I say so.
Rep. Joe Neguse is making a strong case historically. So glad a minority voice and good lawyer demands mandatory minimum punishment. Constitutional in his opinion. Cant find professors to support their position. Could find one to say the only purpose of impeachment is removal, but he also added that removal was part of Impeachment process. The Trump lawyers left that part of the quote out!!!!! OMG.
[11:07 AM, 2/9/2021]: Nailed it
HOLY HELL's BElls. I feel like I am listening to Clarence Darrow defending evolution. He lost but we all know he was right. Same with Galileo's heliocentric universe. 800 years before the Vatican apologized.
[11:11 AM, 2/9/2021]: Senator Cicciline from RI now. These are junior Senators are so smart. The type you'd want if you were prosecuting a monster. Oath he swore sullied and dishonored. Things could have been much worse. They could have killed all of us. Cops defending us...Trump's incitement dereliction of duty, compounded the damage.
Cops battered and bruised.. Quoting Trump saying this is what we get for challenging the election. Told insurrectionists to remember this day forever after they looked to assassinate senators.
Like the Shakespeare St. Crispin's Day speech written for Trump to tweet that day
.Took oath on Bible. Can't defend, so tries to weasel out with impeachment as too late.
Commit terrible abuses...yet still use slippery slope argument...could be worse if Democrats in charge
WRONG.
[11:23 AM, 2/9/2021]: This Democratic defense is pure Constitutional
Trump wants a free pass by calling the case unConstitutional
But no defense for his guilt which is obvious and proven by the clips, etc. Not even an attempt to offer a defense
He was given an invitation to come. His lawyers refused afraid of what Trump would say
.And we know he will speak after this with shriekingly awful tone-deaf comments...They will act like screaming and rage and ugly words will undercut and pretend it's not so bad, a game.... not impeached for words, but actions. Sought to overturn election after losing 65 lawsuits
Dereliction of duty, desertion of duty based on the high office he held. Targeted Vice President too. Tweets 5 hours after capitol sacked, siding with bad guys
Celebrated armed insurrection. His actions endangered government VP, senators, house, cops, national tragedy, affects our standing in the world, Trump was not in shadow, the VP. If that would have occurred is it not his behavior insurrection?
[11:34 AM, 2/9/2021] : So now Raskin Maryland is saying let me say something personal. (He almost got teary). Took his daughter, new son-in-law. Young daughter. Suicide of son-in-law. Emotional appeals. They were at the Insurrection Day. Caught covid there.
(That man is not arguing logically as it is using emotional appeal but that is stronger every time. 10 minute break so all can blow noses. I hear them sniffing
Good. They should be ashamed of themselves. JHChrist on a breadstick!!!).
[11:44 AM, 2/9/2021] : Reminded us that Trump tweeted a summarized St Crispin Days speech to his cult
made them feel and remember -- jurors, witnesses and victims. Reliving it. -- Quoting CNN Dana Bash (an arch-conservative
They will not be able to respond
Their managers are mostly not lawyers. They are the biggest House blowhards
One is a drunken frat boy from Florida. One is a guy who is embroiled in a sex scandal from his days as a wrestling coach at a school who never reported what he knew a doctor was up to. And the guy beat by his neighbor for being an asshole. A doctor with no real credentials. All failed to get them. GQP. They are saying people around the world watching.
Anyway, those three will just act like highschool bullies. That is all they have. We should expect it. We win the battle even as we lose the war. Unless shame is a mighty strong motivator, Vichy America wins. Shave their fucking heads after the war.
RepubliQan Side:
[12:02 PM, 2/9/2021] : Castor defense for Trump
he's a shithead. Sounds like he knows he's losing already. Thanks to his opponent. He was not there though. Hes hardly better than a public defender with no talent
An asshole. Denounces Trump rioters, but not Trump. Hypocrite
Of course the real people feel it's repugnant that Trump lost his election by fraud, but Trump suddenly does not want anything but unity. It is a lie. The guy is talking about how Trump mourns and he's a good guy
Under the bus rioters. Balls on platter lawyer...
Oh Democrats looking for their pound of flesh. Because we feel unsafe. No one representing Trump will say it should not be denounced that guilty should not be prosecuted. Democrats want retribution in blaming Trump!!!!!
OMG, my head is exploding here. "Passion, rage blinding our reason!" We are cold- bloodedly blaming Trump because we are overcome with emotions. We are hysterical.
[12:09 PM, 2/9/2021]: His balls are shrivelled. They are pulling the abusive male victim shit on America!!! Stupid greasy lawyer won't get paid. Trump never pays his debts, just goes for revenge. He will be denounced after the days end by Trump. Fired.
[12:12 PM, 2/9/2021]: That guy deserves to be grabbed by the collar and shaken. My dad did this to a colonel before. He ended up in Korea. But a colonel had to send him to the front because he knew. An NCO had the strength to pull a man up by the collar and shake him
Did not care what decorations sat on his shoulder. That's my role model in life. The MPs that arrested my dad, secretly shook his hand too.
[12:16 PM, 2/9/2021]: That lawyers balls are in my pocket if we are counting coup.
[12:21 PM, 2/9/2021]: BREAKING: President Trump requests use of Airforce One if forced to appear in Congress. "If they want to impeach me as President they'll have to let me travel as President."
[12:31 PM, 2/9/2021]: We are winning the hearts and minds. They have no case. They want to be super mean and must pull back their punches. Dumbest defense ever. If I was the defendant, Id start planning for a stint behind bars.
[12:31 PM, 2/9/2021]: Now insinuating the GQP will get revenge if they don't watch out
He is revising his hardline speech as he goes.. I have done the podium thing enough to tell when you are unprepared and waiting for the clock to run out the bell...warning of backlash. He has to read this not as a fiery speech but as a whispered threatening sounding blackmail speech
did not act like Churchill who said that if you cant win with logical argument, yell loud. He didnt suggest whisper like a villain. It will backfire. Mark my words. The media will be vicious. Has gone through all the names of Democratic managers warning they will be taken down by voters. Now evoking Romans and Greeks asking how they would feel at the destruction of the Republic
why should they waste time on impeachment? Senate must focus on real work and republic will endure. (Sadly tone deaf ridiculous speech sounds like defense of slavery).
[12:36 PM, 2/9/2021] : Attack on Constitution my ass
Need 67 to agree you are right, but rule 23 says must be in agreement to impeach in office. BS. All or nothing. Sorry I am so mad I am spitting, cussing.
Give me Tomatoes to throw. The stocks. Where I would put him. Making me physically sick. to listen to GQP. Sorry. Trump is out of office. Move on.
[12:53 PM, 2/9/2021] : President honorably served. Best president. (Another GQP hands over balls). He wants to cry for Constitution. (I want to cry at this shite).
You can't convict Trump because penguins look like they are wearing tuxes, and dragons don't have tophats. -- Angry White House Staffer....Hes calling the clips propaganda. Chosen carefully to make Trump look bad. They are calling it weaponization, sport, party over country, everyone will look bad. Personal shame.
OMG, they sure ride a short high horse.
Current argument: LIES LIES LIES LIES YOUR FAULT LIES LIES LIES.
Stealing Trump's right to free speech? Come again?
His political career endangered. Rushing to judgment. Impeachment is somehow un Constitutional ask Hamilton. Hes dead dummies. Ask Frederick Douglas. Trump knows him.
They are racing for new article of impeachment rush rush lie lie lie. Angry voice.
Catch 45: Jeff Tiedrich of the political forum Smirking Chimp sums up the absurdity with Twitter-appropriate brevity: so for four years we couldnt prosecute Trump because he was president and now we have to let him get away with it because hes no longer president? holy fg shit, this is some industrial-strength bullshit and Im not having any of it. -- William Rivers Pitt
Body language as I read it: Foot to foot back and forth. Reading text, not looking up. Putting me in coma. Reading quotes from Reader's Digest Quotable Quotes website. Touches his combover when he drinks because it's loose and will muss up his baldy head. A man that lies about being that bald, is fooling one. Crucifixion with rusty nails on dry rotted wood. Defending Trump on moral grounds Trumps Golgotha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Using LBJ and Lincoln to defend Trump. Now trying to quote poetry, original quote from Whitman not the doggeral rhymer he's sharing. That is the worst use of such a quote ever.
[2:03 PM, 2/9/2021] : Also, they are voting if the trial is constitutional. So doen after that. That is their idea of a day's work. The baldy boring lawyer goes to restroom to pee and slick back his thin line combover.
[2:04 PM, 2/9/2021] : The are voting party lines...No trial says the Insurrectionist Cult.
[2:10 PM, 2/9/2021]: 56 to 44.
[2:11 PM, 2/9/2021]: The trial goes forward tomorrow
Insurrection Day: Pre-Impeachment Trial links Pt.16
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215069318
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(28,979 posts)When you hire laughable lawyers to give a laughable defense who are determined to treat this deadly serious trial as laughable, the Senators who vote to acquit will be seen as worse than laughable. Theyll be seen as laughing in the face of murder.
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(28,979 posts)Did not expect to find myself crying during opening statements. @RepRaskin
emerges as the conscience of the Congress, sharing that he came to work on Jan 6 despite the loss of his son to ensure a peaceful transfer of power & was separated from his daughter & SIL by the attack.
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(28,979 posts)The Constitution provides disqualification from future office as an available penalty in cases of impeachment. It would defy logic if a president could commit an impeachable offense near the end of his term and evade this penalty simply because his term expired before the trial.
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(28,979 posts)In revisionist history, Trump lawyer David Schoen claims Speaker Pelosi held articles of impeachment "to avoid having the trial begin while Mr. Trump was still president." The trial couldn't have started because Senate was in recess and Leader McConnell declined to call it back.
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(28,979 posts)Multiple people tell me Trump was basically screaming as Castor made a meandering opening argument that struggled to get at the heart of the defense team's argument.
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(28,979 posts)Add former President Donald Trump to the list of people puzzled, perplexed, and perturbed by his impeachment lawyer Bruce Castor's performance on Tuesday.
During a rambling opening argument, Castor praised the House impeachment managers and barely mentioned whether it is unconstitutional to hold a trial for a president once they are out of office. Trump was apoplectic, people familiar with the matter told CNN and The New York Times, and while his spirits were slightly lifted when his other attorney, David Schoen, attacked Democrats during his remarks, Trump was still furious when the proceedings were finished for the day.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/966045/trump-reportedly-not-impressed-by-impeachment-lawyers-performance
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(28,979 posts)Remember when you watch that video of the attempted coup d'état that the FBI has vastly more video, audio, text messages, and bank transfers leading back to the Republican Party, its Attorneys General, the wife of a Supreme Court Justice, and GOP donors.
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(28,979 posts)The United States Capitol was invaded and desecrated.
The Senate impeachment trial of Donald Trump is about truth and accountability following this despicable attack.
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(28,979 posts)Utah Senator Mike Lee: Every president should be allowed at least one failed coup attempt.
No, really. That's what he's saying.
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(28,979 posts)The defense case was weak and convoluted, to say the least.
Yet 44 Republican Senators still voted to avoid a trial, rather than confront the facts.
But there is no hiding from our Constitutional duty.
If we condone, excuse or shield Trumps misconduct, we invite it again.
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