I am beside myself with rage and anger right now.

[servermsh]

I'm shaking at what just happened!

A stupid reading of an already public statement!

They passed a motion to call witnesses and then didn't call witnesses!

That testimony would have been extremely embarrassing for Republicans.

Today's process makes it look like Democrats caved to Republican threats. Republicans will be laughing about this for weeks.

I'm ENRAGED!

[jrthin]

1. +1000

[Turin_C3PO]

2. Relax.

Be mad at Republicans not Democrats.

[soothsayer]

3. Bummed

[LSparkle]

11. Agree. I expected more from Raskin and co.

I don’t want to have to listen to that Orange Anus Mouth crowing about being “exonerated” again!!!

My God, Ted Lieu is right — if he can run again, we’re all stuck in this nightmare ... no end. His fans can just keep believing Biden isn’t legitimate and can terrorize us forever. I AM SICK OF CARING about what his sycophants think. LIBERATE AMERICA from this vampire!!!!!!

[Bettie]

21. We were always going to have to listen to him

crowing about being exonerated again. There is no way they will convict him.

Even those to claim to despise him actually love his beliefs, the only thing they don't like is that he is too open about them for their tastes.

Even Romney agrees with all of it. He just prefers it to be more veiled or it is "unseemly".

[Stallion]

4. Its More Than a Stipulation-Since its In Evidence it Can Be Allowed During Argument

I would prefer live testimony but you'll hear it referred to as evidence throughout the day during argument. Otherwise reference to such evidence would be objectionable and inadmissible

[USALiberal]

5. Chill! Nt

[MontanaMama]

6. I think it's okay.

DU’s StarfishSaver is someone I often look to for guidance on these matters...and she’s saying it was a good move by Raskin.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215105582

[Irish_Dem]

13. Yes, I am going to go with Raskin's judgement right now.

He is doing a brilliant job.

Trump has admitted to making the phone call.

[Zoonart]

14. I agree.

One minute the Democrats are geniuses and the next they are weaklings. Just stop it.

We got what we wanted, The admission of this testimony into the record is an admission of guilt by Donald tRump.
That is what we wanted., and we got it.

So take the vote and let's hang it around their necks, without letting them turn this into a shit show.
Just MHO.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Why? The House managers got exactly what they wanted.

Their threat to call witnesses was playing chicken with Trump's lawyers, and Trump's lawyers blinked. Live witnesses would have devolved into a circus with Trump's lawyers doing performative cross-examination for the benefit of their audience to no benefit to the prosecution. They got a stipulation to crucial facts. Give the House team a little credit, you're watching some of the best lawyers on the planet. They know what they're doing.

[Zoonart]

15. THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Politicub]

19. +1

[Vinca]

9. It's not worth driving yourself crazy about. With or without witnesses the end result would

have been the same. Our best moves at this point are to get this over with, get Biden's agenda passed and work like hell to beat every Trumplican running for office in 2022.

[a kennedy]

16. Thank you for this, your voice is calming and true. ❤️

[Wawannabe]

17. Is that your version of unity?

This is not how it should go IMO.

Witnesses are needed. We can’t just “get on with it”.

[Vinca]

23. "Unity" is a pipe dream. Just wait and see. As soon as this is over - witnesses or no witnesses -

Trump will go on tour with a continuation of his stolen election/donate-to-me propaganda, only now it will have an added touch. He'll beat the drum that Joe is a fake president and act like a ruler in exile. All the while, Mitch and his merry band of whiners will oppose everything and anything Democrats propose. They use "unity" against us as a weapon - they always have - and if we fall for it this time we're fools. I think Joe gets this having witnessed the Obama years up close. Obama would give up all kinds of things to compromise and then Republicans would vote against it anyway. Joe has already shown them the door on the Covid-19 slash and burn proposal they came up with. You could have a hundred witnesses on each side and draw this out for Biden's entire term and the GOP would still vote to vindicate Trump.

[Wawannabe]

10. Me too!

But there are other OPs that say “well played”. I do not agree.

[bmbmd]

12. As the prophet says

"Breathe in, breathe out, move on".

[Danmel]

18. Me too.

We have the majority, why don't we use our power??

[Under The Radar]

20. Get a majority vote for conviction even if not 2/3rds then proceed to a criminal charges

[we can do it]

22. Calm down.