OK #SeditionHunters here is a new development and a new project. It seems that in some high-res shot

[soothsayer]

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OK #SeditionHunters here is a new development and a new project. It seems that in some high-res shots you can see the frequencies used for #SeditionComms, and they are different for different groups. So those numbers tell you who talks to who. Please look for these & report!

[wcmagumba]

1. Those look like Ham transceivers...illegal to use without a license and using your identifying...

call sign (federally issued after you take a qualifying exam). Also, even if licensed you are not allowed to use these radios during commission of unlawful acts....may be additional charges here....

[AverageOldGuy]

10. Well, yes and no

First, let me lay out my prejudices: I am an amateur radio operator (a "ham" operator). First licensed in 1958, hold an Amateur Extra Class license that I earned when 20 WPM Morse Code was still a requirement for the Extra. I'm very protective of Amateur Radio.

The radios pictured are cheap Chinese knock-offs of quality Japanese handheld radios. The Chinese brand name is "Baofeng"; they copied Japanese Yaesu, Kenwood, and ICOM -- which are top-quality radios.

The radios pictured appear to be Baofeng model UV-5R or UV-F8+. They sell for $35 - $85, whereas ICOM, Kenwood, or Yaesu radios with the same specifications start around $150 and top out at over $600.

I purchased a Baofeng about three years ago. I live where the Potomac River joins the Chesapeake Bay. After fiddling around with the POS for a week or so, I tossed it into the Potomac at the end of my dock.

Several of the firefighters in one of our local volunteer fire departments purchased Baofengs for use as their squad radios. Couple of years ago a local business burned -- the firefighters with Baofengs inside the burning building COULD NOT COMMUNICATE WITH THE GUYS IN THE PARKING LOT SUPPLYING THEM WITH WATER. They now all use Motorolas (at $1100 a radio).

While the Baofengs are advertised as amateur radio devices, they cover a huge range of frequencies including amateur bands, public service bands (police, fire, rescue), aircraft band, and other designated frequency bands. They are not type-accepted by the FCC for use on any amateur bands; the Baofengs are sold on Amazon and through a lot of other retailers. Readily available software enables the user to program the radio to operate on any set of frequencies, whether the user is licensed for those freqs or not.

Finally, yes, the display on the radio does show the frequencies on which it is operating -- 151.370 Mhz and 400.025 Mhz, neither of which is an amateur radio band. Looks as though they just picked a freq and jumped on it.

And that's the end of my rant; now slipping out to my ham station for a little 40 meter QRP CW.

[SheltieLover]

12. Welcome to DU!

Ty for the info.

[wcmagumba]

18. Thanks for the info...Just made a quick observation about these morons wishing them to be charged...

with every possible violation for their (imo) unlawful activities during the capital insurrection. I have a lowly technician level amateur license (still in effect as I renewed for ten more years about three years back) and although I couldn't see the branding on the pics thought they looked like possible amateur radio knock offs....I own a couple of Yaesu handhelds (a single band and a dual band) and occasionally tune in to a local repeater to listen...One of these days I might get active again as my health permits. Believe it or not there is still an area Radio Shack store owned/operated by amateur operators which has information about the activities of the service and even carries used ham equipment for sale in a corner of the store...your post makes me want to get active again and upgrade to at least a general as I never could get past the old "code" requirement (I did try to learn) but now I guess it is not required...73s

[Jirel]

14. They are not.

They are super-inexpensive short range programmable radios. We use them constantly at my volunteer gig. I doubt these yahoos were even able to talk to each other effectively because their range sucks. We use them to stay in contact over a mere 2 acre site and a bit beyond, and even then they don’t work that well if someone is behind a thick wall or lots of metal. It’s sad, because they are really smart on channels , but their actual ability to reach another radio is less than stellar.

[Leghorn21]

2. COOL

rock steady, hunters

[MustLoveBeagles]

3. K&R

[KY_EnviroGuy]

4. That would seem to be supportive evidence for conspiracy charges.

Normal people don't carry two-way radios to a peaceful political rally.

Of course, there's nothing normal about this bunch of hoodlums......

[DENVERPOPS]

13. Maybe the new legitimate FCC can look into this????? NC

[KY_EnviroGuy]

16. They would have to catch them in the act with monitoring gear.

Those guys were likely using those radios illegally but if caught, the FCC would just fine them. They are intended to operate on a business usage band (construction sites, business security, etc.) but can be set to operate over a wide range of bands that require a license. The band intended for public use (campers, farmers, etc.) is low power and there's even a few frequencies that don't require a license.

Most people just buy these radios from someplace like a sporting goods store or Amazon and use them without regard for proper licensing. The FCC generally does not chase after people doing this unless someone legitimately complains.

Now if say, the FBI was chasing crooks they thought were using radios as part of criminal activity, they could request FCC manpower and equipment to monitor the crooks and I believe it's illegal to use U.S.-owned frequencies in criminal activities, so that could constitute additional charges.

It's been many years since I was involved in the licensed radio biz so I'm speaking off the cuff here in retirement.

KY

[DENVERPOPS]

17. Thanks for the info

I used to enjoy listening to a scanner I had. Local police & fire. Cost maybe 100 bucks.
Then everything started changing and they went to 400mhz? and they were a lot more expensive.
Then they went to 800mhz?, you had to pay someone to program them, and they were exorbitant in price. 4-5K????
Oh well..............

[wcmagumba]

19. I still have several outdated scanner radios that I haven't flipped on for years...but

I do occasionally listen through my phone or pc as you can for free to almost any area of the country...folks with those high dollar scanner rigs post their feeds online for anyone to stream....very cool and remarkably cheap (as in free)... their are free apps for your phone too so you can listen anywhere....one link below...(not an owner or marketer of this just a link I sometimes use)....
Click on "listen" pick your preferred state and county and service through the US map...fun...
https://www.broadcastify.com/

[Hamiam73]

5. Baofeng handhelds

These are really good, cheap radios with lots of versatility. They work on GMRS/FRS, 2meter and 70cm ham bands, and vhf and uhf analog public service frequencies. Lots of volunteer firefighters use them in my community. The problems is they are not frequency blocked. It's up to the user to make sure they are transmitting in accordance with the law and licensing limitations. In this case, these Seditionous Bastards are neither transmitting on proper freqs, or with proper licensing. Or with lawful intent.

[StarryNite]

7. Thank you for that information.

And welcome to DU!

[Canoe52]

8. Hello, welcome to DU!

[AllyCat]

11. Welcome. Thank you for the interesting information!

[5X]

15. Some of the frequencies displayed are in the ham bands, most are public service bands like

local sheriff, volunteer firefighters, etc. Local cops and firefighters have been found in the group.

[SheltieLover]

6. K&R!

[oasis]

9. Lock 'em up.