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(26,685 posts)and Biden's choices for government positions.. Thank you Rev. Barber for all you do.
karynnj
(59,514 posts)I would call it picking your battles. For Barber, economic justice and the $15 minimum wage are what he has fought for for years. Demanding that Manchin vote yes on every Democratic position or nominee, is likely not going to work and it could lead him to become more unlikely to bend on everything.
Here, I assume the West Virginians listening to Barber will PERSONALLY try to make the case on how it is in WV's interest to have a minimum wage that is higher. I know very little about Manchin, but with ANY Senator I would assume that it will take substantive arguments that persuade them to change positions.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)doc03
(35,484 posts)WV is about the reddest state in the county. Say what you want about Joe Manchin but I really think he does what he thinks
his constituents want and what is best for his state.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,727 posts)In 2024.
Manchin will lose the GOP primary in 2024 if he switches parties, and he will lose the Dem primary if he obstructs Bidens agenda.
Manchin really only has one choice: support Bidens agenda (while trying to negotiate the best for his conservative constituents), or retire in 2024.
Ninga
(8,283 posts)championed and led by Democrats that they rely on such as Social Security and Medicare. The coal dust blinding them keeps them from seeing how disadvantaged the entire state is.
Irish_Dem
(48,445 posts)them specifically.
Leaders need to lead. Not follow like sheep off a cliff.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)do not want a liberal Democrat representing them and have been demonstrating that for decades. Have they ever had a chance to demonstrate their attitude toward socialist candidates?
More to the point, has the purge-Manchin crowd identified a favorite Republican they want to replace him?
Even Senator Sanders understood after his coin toss with our lives of 2016 that America's choice wasn't going to be between socialism and liberal democracy but between liberal democracy and some kind of extreme RW fascistic-Christo-kleptocracy. Until the those extreme factions sorted out who was strongest.
Unfortunately for your advice about Sanders' duty to educate his more extremist followers, many clearly learned nothing and are not concerned about the grave threat of RW authoritarianism/fascism. Even with executions by police in the streets, a half million Covid deaths, an attempted end to representative government, and TX's power failure as previews of what that means.
Slow learners or no learners? Maybe a few excited by the possibilities for them of RW revolution?