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Nevilledog

(51,286 posts)
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:17 PM Apr 2021

Navy Seabees Build VP Kamala Harris a Desk Out of Wood from USS Constitution



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Navy Seabees Build VP Kamala Harris a Desk Out of Wood from USS Constitution

The vice president and Navy secretary now have new desks built out of materials from some of the most storied ships in U.S. history.
military.com
6:57 AM · Apr 5, 2021



https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/04/05/navy-seabees-build-vp-kamala-harris-desk-out-of-wood-uss-constitution.html

The vice president and Navy secretary now have new desks built out of materials from some of the most storied ships in U.S. history.

Navy Seabees built a desk for Vice President Kamala Harris made from wood, copper and nails taken off the USS Constitution, one of the country's first frigates. The Constitution is the oldest commissioned warship still afloat.

The desk, which was delivered to Harris in February, features carvings of an eagle and stars reminiscent of the Constitution's stern decorations, said Paul Taylor, a spokesman for Naval History and Heritage Command, which oversaw the project. The project was approved while President Donald Trump was still in office, and Seabees began construction Jan. 4.

Harris' new workspace is one of two "heritage desks" Seabees constructed this year. Sailors also built a desk for the Navy secretary that not only includes materials from the Constitution, but from the frigate Chesapeake; battleships Texas, New Jersey and Arizona; and sloop of war Constellation as well.

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Navy Seabees Build VP Kamala Harris a Desk Out of Wood from USS Constitution (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2021 OP
Cue the fake poutrage from RWNJ fantasy world in 3...2...1 (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #1
But it was never intended for V.P. Harris. SergeStorms Apr 2021 #23
Yeah I saw that part ... but RWNJ poutrage rarely has solid basis in fact/reality ... Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #30
You're right about that. SergeStorms Apr 2021 #36
This was my 1st thought as well sdfernando Apr 2021 #46
She should put her feet upon it. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #56
Bare feet, while wearing a tan suit :) nt Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #57
With a sleeveless blouse eating a sandwich with fancy mustard... nt kirkuchiyo Apr 2021 #62
So awesome! pandr32 Apr 2021 #2
Pretty sure she's one to appreciate the history, since she's making history being there. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2021 #3
Where do they find spare wood on these ships? Karadeniz Apr 2021 #4
The Constitution was a wooden ship. Treefrog Apr 2021 #6
IS a ship... not was.... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #72
Per the article SoCalNative Apr 2021 #7
Ah! My link connector is so slow today, I've abandoned links! Karadeniz Apr 2021 #8
As others have said, they were refitting the Constitution localroger Apr 2021 #21
Ah, so! Karadeniz Apr 2021 #22
The USS Constitution is like George Washington's ax Brother Buzz Apr 2021 #37
I see! Karadeniz Apr 2021 #38
It occupies the same space as the original. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #49
See also: Ship of Theseus Greg K Apr 2021 #68
There you go! Brother Buzz Apr 2021 #70
My uncle was in the Navy and killed in the Battle of Guadalcanal. He would be astounded to see Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #5
I wish I could rec your post. A beautiful one! Treefrog Apr 2021 #17
Aw thank you! Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #19
Struck me much the same. jaxexpat Apr 2021 #33
Thank you Jax. I am cursed/blessed with a strong sentimentality and a desire to express it! Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #35
The Pacific WWII theatre was some of the worst warfare in human history. Horrific from every angle. Celerity Apr 2021 #60
Did you see Speilberg's Pacific? It was superb. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #64
I have not seen that, but it is now in my list, thank you so much for the recco, and also for Celerity Apr 2021 #66
Yes Speilberg and Tom Hanks were the producers and knocked it out of the park. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #75
Awww... Dream Girl Apr 2021 #65
I can already hear the RW screaming about how Kamala Harris destroyed the USS Constitution, LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2021 #9
he probably was going to grab it and sent to mar a fog oh... n/t getagrip_already Apr 2021 #73
too bad she can't take it home with her after she's out of office. WarGamer Apr 2021 #10
Better it be there in perpetuity zipplewrath Apr 2021 #13
It's gorgeous. Hell I'd like a replica for MY office. WarGamer Apr 2021 #14
I got chills reading the words "Harris Desk." Of course, that is going to be the name of the desk! Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #20
It will probably be known alternately localroger Apr 2021 #25
Yes. The Harris/Constitution Desk. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #28
HMS Resolute VGNonly Apr 2021 #47
Wow, how freaking cool is that! lark Apr 2021 #11
Outstanding!! Baked Potato Apr 2021 #12
Beautiful desk - thank you Navy Seabees. nt iluvtennis Apr 2021 #15
I for one did not know the Seabees had cabinetmakers in their corps. localroger Apr 2021 #32
I had the same thought. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #51
If she spills on it Harker Apr 2021 #16
+10 nt reACTIONary Apr 2021 #39
Every piece of wood from the original ship was replaced a long time ago Warpy Apr 2021 #18
The Ship of Theseus, or Grandfather's Axe paradox localroger Apr 2021 #31
Right, it might be new wood Warpy Apr 2021 #67
How wonderful! A new historic desk honoring our election of our first woman VP. Hortensis Apr 2021 #24
Just forwarded this to my siblings. madamesilverspurs Apr 2021 #26
how could you not onethatcares Apr 2021 #27
+1 -K&R onetexan Apr 2021 #59
Well, their motto is CAN DO! CTyankee Apr 2021 #29
I hope she carves her initials on there somewhere for posterity FakeNoose Apr 2021 #34
What a beautiful, historically significant desk! dlk Apr 2021 #40
What a wonderful gift! mcar Apr 2021 #41
It's a work of art! ffr Apr 2021 #42
Did you see the inlay of pink marble! Historic art. StClone Apr 2021 #43
Oh, nice! I wondered why that looked different. Zoomed in on it electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #52
That is one cool desk. taxi Apr 2021 #44
That is cool liberal N proud Apr 2021 #45
How very nice! Hekate Apr 2021 #48
Cool stuff! Thanks for the link! nt Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #50
What VP Harris could do is get some high quality 100% cotton rag paper electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #53
Can Do rickford66 Apr 2021 #54
K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2021 #55
So cool! Martin68 Apr 2021 #58
Coool!!! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2021 #61
Beautiful work SeaBees! BlueIdaho Apr 2021 #63
Impressive YoshidaYui Apr 2021 #69
How cool. Joinfortmill Apr 2021 #71
most people don't realize it, but there is a lot of wood in WWII warships getagrip_already Apr 2021 #74

SergeStorms

(19,205 posts)
23. But it was never intended for V.P. Harris.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:34 PM
Apr 2021

It was commissioned while Drumpf was still pResident, so he obviously thought Q-Tip Pence would be the proud owner. Ooooops!

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. Yeah I saw that part ... but RWNJ poutrage rarely has solid basis in fact/reality ...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:51 PM
Apr 2021

It's opportunity-based.

There's headlines saying VP Harris got this desk, and that's all it takes for their nonsense to start up.

SergeStorms

(19,205 posts)
36. You're right about that.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 06:28 PM
Apr 2021

The owners of the "Q" conspiracy seldom let little things like actual facts get in the way if their righteous indignation, do they? They're the "ready, shoot, aim" bunch.

sdfernando

(4,948 posts)
46. This was my 1st thought as well
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 07:06 PM
Apr 2021

the q-publicans will all have the vapors..The VP is raping material from storied historical ships to make personal use desks and other items. Oh the outrage we are going to hear about this.

getagrip_already

(14,970 posts)
72. IS a ship... not was....
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 04:11 PM
Apr 2021

It is still a commissioned ship residing in Boston harbor. Once a year there is a ritual ceremony where they take her out and turn her around.

I suspect they had to do some repairs and this wood had to be removed for structural reasons.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
7. Per the article
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:29 PM
Apr 2021

"The wood from the Constitution was removed during two restorations that ran between 2007 and 2017, Taylor said."

localroger

(3,636 posts)
21. As others have said, they were refitting the Constitution
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:33 PM
Apr 2021

When you take wood off a massive structure like a ship because it's outer layers are rotten, you can also get some fine boards from the interior which has been protected -- not enough to reuse on the ship, but enough to build a desk, door, etc. You often see this done on old barn restorations too.

Brother Buzz

(36,502 posts)
37. The USS Constitution is like George Washington's ax
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 06:30 PM
Apr 2021

The handle has been replaced six times, and the head three times, but it's still George Washington's ax

Irish_Dem

(47,928 posts)
5. My uncle was in the Navy and killed in the Battle of Guadalcanal. He would be astounded to see
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:26 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:29 PM - Edit history (1)

a beautiful woman sitting at this Navy desk in the office of Vice President of the United States.
I wish his ship had survived to contribute some wood for this desk.

Celerity

(43,751 posts)
60. The Pacific WWII theatre was some of the worst warfare in human history. Horrific from every angle.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 03:44 AM
Apr 2021


Superb multi-part, huge (they average out to over 4 hours an episode) podcast series about it. Part VI, the final part, is coming soon. All episodes are free to download atm.

Hardcore History – Supernova in the East

https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/









Irish_Dem

(47,928 posts)
64. Did you see Speilberg's Pacific? It was superb.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:07 PM
Apr 2021

Until I saw this series I did not understand the circumstances around the death of my uncle.
I cried as I saw what had occurred on these islands and I finally understood why my uncle died.

Thanks for the info above, I will see if I can watch them. Pacific wrung me out.

The fighting on the Solomon Islands and GC was horrific as you say. At times supplies were running dangerously low
putting American troops in danger. In August of 1942, my uncle was on the USS Meredith which was sailing to the islands in a supply convoy with barges pulling badly needed oil and bombs. It was learned that a huge Japanese carrier task force was in the vicinity and all the ships turned back except the Meredith and another ship.

The Meredith did not have much in the way of defensive equipment but the Captain felt his mission was so important it warranted the risk. The ship was attacked by a large number of Japanese planes. The men onboard the Meredith fought back ferociously but the ship sank in 10 minutes. Many men were killed outright, others swimming for hours in shark infested waters. I was concerned that my uncle was one of the ones in the water fighting against sharks, a torture of sorts. My brother says no, our uncle's duties were on the bridge which was wiped out immediately. So my uncle was either killed right away or he was in his bed below and drowned. The Navy has a memorial for those KIA on the USS Meredith in the Philippines.

Celerity

(43,751 posts)
66. I have not seen that, but it is now in my list, thank you so much for the recco, and also for
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 01:07 PM
Apr 2021

sharing a part of your family's history.

Irish_Dem

(47,928 posts)
75. Yes Speilberg and Tom Hanks were the producers and knocked it out of the park.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 05:34 PM
Apr 2021

Thank you for listening to me about my uncle. He was killed when he was only 22 yrs old, so it is good to give
him some recognition. We think about him every family reunion and drink some whiskey for him!

9. I can already hear the RW screaming about how Kamala Harris destroyed the USS Constitution,
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:31 PM
Apr 2021

completely ignoring the part of the article which says the project was approved while T***** was in office.

I'm surprised he didn't tear apart the entire ship to make a desk big enough for his fat ass to sit behind.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
13. Better it be there in perpetuity
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:59 PM
Apr 2021

Better that such a desk should first be sat at by the first female vice president in history. That will be its legacy. It could be known for all time as the "Harris desk".

WarGamer

(12,509 posts)
14. It's gorgeous. Hell I'd like a replica for MY office.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:00 PM
Apr 2021

My inner amateur wood worker is curious if the details were done by CNC or by hand...

localroger

(3,636 posts)
25. It will probably be known alternately
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:35 PM
Apr 2021

...as the "Harris" or "Constitution" desk, just as like the Hayes / Resolute desk used by many presidents, made from timbers of the H.M.S. Resolute and originally gifted to President Rutherford B. Hayes.

Irish_Dem

(47,928 posts)
28. Yes. The Harris/Constitution Desk.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:44 PM
Apr 2021

Historic Vice President, it couldn't be called anything else by future generations.

VGNonly

(7,530 posts)
47. HMS Resolute
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 07:30 PM
Apr 2021

Was originally a merchant vessel converted to naval use to search for the Franklin Expedition. It was caught in the ice and abandoned in the 1850's. The US Navy found it, had it refitted and presented it to the British Navy. When it was eventually scrapped, Queen Victoria had some of the timbers rebuilt into desks for the US Navy. FDR, JFK, Carter, Obama and others used it, including Joe Biden.

*I'm a polar history exploration nerd*

localroger

(3,636 posts)
32. I for one did not know the Seabees had cabinetmakers in their corps.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 06:01 PM
Apr 2021

Probably should have known. They do have to build everything.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,580 posts)
51. I had the same thought.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 08:44 PM
Apr 2021

"Construction Battalion" doesn't exactly scream "fine joinery," does it? I picture them in the South Pacific with bulldozers, building airfields for the Air Force and Naval aviators, among other things.

Warpy

(111,456 posts)
18. Every piece of wood from the original ship was replaced a long time ago
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:22 PM
Apr 2021

and much of it has been replaced several times over, but this is still really neat.

I love that she's the first VP who gets to use it. I hope it's the start of a long line of competent VPs (you know, not GOP) who will use it for the next decade or so.

localroger

(3,636 posts)
31. The Ship of Theseus, or Grandfather's Axe paradox
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:59 PM
Apr 2021

If your grandfather gives your father an axe, and he replaces the handle, and he gives it to you and you replace the head, is it still your grandfather's axe? We tend to think that it is because the repairs did not interrupt its identity as a functional object.

The wood for the Harris Desk might not have been from the original construction, but it's very definitely from the Constitution, and that's what matters.

Warpy

(111,456 posts)
67. Right, it might be new wood
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 01:39 PM
Apr 2021

but it was carefully crafted, often by hand, so it would fit precisely into the original ship.

20+ years in eastern Mass. and the one tour I never did was Old Ironsides, I just never got around to it.

I did visit the replica Mayflower in Plymouth, constructed according to the original's specs. That one surprises everybody, it's so much smaller than people think it is. It wouldn't be considered much of a yacht were it moored in one of the posher marinas in the area. Those people were brave to the point of lunacy.

madamesilverspurs

(15,820 posts)
26. Just forwarded this to my siblings.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:39 PM
Apr 2021

We are descended from commodores of both Constitution and Constellation. During an earlier restoration of Constitution pieces of the original hull were presented to descendants, a square of wood about 3"x3" with a round bronze medallion on it. Dad treasured it, and when he passed it went to my older brother, a Navy veteran, and it will eventually go to my younger brother, also a Navy vet.

Thanks so much for sharing the article!


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onethatcares

(16,207 posts)
27. how could you not
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 05:41 PM
Apr 2021

place your elbows on that desk, close your eyes, and not feel the history of our country?

Thank you SeaBees.


StClone

(11,692 posts)
43. Did you see the inlay of pink marble! Historic art.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 07:00 PM
Apr 2021

Pretty sure it is Pink marble! That had to be done specifically with Harris in mind.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
44. That is one cool desk.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 07:01 PM
Apr 2021

The desk may have been made using the joinery techniques of the time and some nice details like the inlays and columns. Fine craftsmanship for sure.

electric_blue68

(15,029 posts)
53. What VP Harris could do is get some high quality 100% cotton rag paper
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 08:54 PM
Apr 2021

... or something like that and make a rubbing off the stars, and the eagle.

Then she could have that framed for herself post office.

Lovely woodworking!

getagrip_already

(14,970 posts)
74. most people don't realize it, but there is a lot of wood in WWII warships
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 04:19 PM
Apr 2021

They used to put wood timbers behind the steel plating/belting in the hull to prevent shrapnel from dancing through the ship if it was hit with a torpedo or shell.

I had a picture somewhere......

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