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I learned something new just now............
I live on Long Island. Robert Moses built low overpasses on the Southern State parkway so buses from the city couldnt make it to the beaches
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ChazII
(6,207 posts)I am taking right now.
Kid Berwyn
(15,060 posts)Nithin Vejendla
Opinion, The Detroit Free Press, July 5, 2020
The protests over George Floyds murder at the hands of Minneapolis Police have brought to the forefront the variety of ways in which our society continues to harbor white supremacy and perpetuate racism. Part of this reckoning involves removing racist monuments, including the Christopher Columbus statue that the City of Detroit recently put in storage.
But if were going to get serious about removing symbols of this countrys endemic racism, we shouldnt stop there. Detroits most persistent, visible, and disruptive symbols of racism are its freeways.
Planners routed Detroit's freeways through predominantly Black communities. The Chrysler Freeway blasted through Paradise Valley and Black Bottom, destroying a vibrant Black business and entertainment district that contained some of the African-American communitys most important institutions. The Lodge Expressway (M-10) cut through the increasingly Black neighborhoods around 12th Street and west of Highland Park, and the Edsel Ford Freeway (I-94) managed to cut through both the Black west side and the northern extension of Paradise Valley.
Highway planners sold the demolition programs as part of an urban renewal campaign designed to help residents by replacing older homes and apartments with new construction. In practice, it amounted to negro removal: Predominantly Black and poor residents displaced by the demolition were left to find new housing without government assistance at a time when demand in the citys segregated housing market far outstripped supply. Instead of moving into better living conditions, a majority of those displaced ended up within a mile of the new super-highways, in homes that were almost no better than the ones they had left. The better residential developments, such as Lafayette Park, became mostly white enclaves. Harvey Royal, whose home was demolished for the Ford Freeway, summed it up best by saying: I think it would have been so much nicer to have built places for people to live in than a highway and just put people in the street.
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https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2020/07/05/detroit-freeways-racism-segregation-white-flight/5366081002/
Goodheart
(5,352 posts)I-10 from downtown eastward was deliberately routed over North Claiborne Avenue, which was a fine wide avenue of black-owned houses and businesses.
Kid Berwyn
(15,060 posts)Time for some real urban renewal a New Reconstruction.
h2ebits
(650 posts)Denver Interstate designed to wipe out poor section of town. Even today, major fight to repair I70 by moving a section underground to save the people and help with pollution failed so we are repeating the systemic racism rather than correcting it.
LNM
(1,082 posts)I-94 destroyed the Rondo neighborhood.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,520 posts)off from the larger community.
musette_sf
(10,209 posts)and I just ordered The Power Broker. (No Kindle version. I thought about the Audible version but its 66 hours long.)
obamanut2012
(26,183 posts)It was built to keep the POC and other "lower class" from being able to easily access the Yale grounds.
Towlie
(5,332 posts)The sign says 10' - 6" clearance.
A Google search for "height of a bus" returns "Total bus height is usually 13 to 14.5 feet..."
And that's just the first overpass that I looked at.
RussellCattle
(1,538 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,137 posts)Robert Caro mentioned them in his book decades ago.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)allow for a train to run down the middle. That would have accommodated low went housing on either side.
Moses threw that idea out the window.
He was an amazing shit stain.
Iggo
(47,597 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....been prohibited from all parkways in New York State, as have trailers and most commercial vehicles.
So I don't think that's why the overpasses are so low.
caraher
(6,279 posts)On one hand, there do exist perfectly innocent explanations - bridges were built lower at the time. And parkways were meant to evoke a rural area and exclude commercial traffic.
But there's also some pretty damning evidence:
I remember his aide, Sid Shapiro, who I spent a lot of time getting to talk to me, he finally talked to me. And he had this quote that Ive never forgotten. He said Moses didnt want poor people, particularly poor people of color, to use Jones Beach, so they had legislation passed forbidding the use of buses on parkways.
Then he had this quote, and I can still hear him saying it to me. Legislation can always be changed. Its very hard to tear down a bridge once its up. So he built 180 or 170 bridges too low for buses.
We used Jones Beach a lot, because I used to work the night shift for the first couple of years, so Id sleep til 12 and then wed go down and spend a lot of afternoons at the beach. It never occurred to me that there werent any black people at the beach.
Moreover, the bridges blocking access to Jones Beach were, in fact, notably lower than average:
...the Southern State bridges were substantially lower averaging just 107.6 inches (eastbound) with four under 8 feet tall.
While there may not be definitive proof, the verification that the Southern State bridges are substantially lower, Caro's anecdotal evidence from Sid Shapiro and Moses' successful attempt to prevent the Long Island Railroad from constructing a line to Jones Beach all make it clear that Moses likely ordered the bridge heights lowered to keep lower-income and minority New Yorkers from accessing Jones Beach. The example is one of many built environment strategies used by planners to racially discriminate.
Nululu
(842 posts)Over 300 homes taken for low payments. A mostly black neighborhood destroyed
Permanut
(5,710 posts)and I-5 northbound out of Portland toward Vancouver Washington.
NNadir
(33,586 posts)...I never thought of this possibility. On some level it makes sense, but ultimately they did build the LI Expressway.
elleng
(131,390 posts)Hekate
(91,006 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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yellerpup
(12,254 posts)Intestates cut through all sections of Greenwood (North Tulsa) so it would never be the same, continuing throughout the years after the Tulsa Race Massacre in 1921.
eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)If you don't have time to read all 700,000 words, try reading the Wikipedia article on the book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_Broker
(Some other items: Moses had heard that POC are less tolerant of cold water than whites, so city pools were kept at low temps. Pools were also built in predominantly white neighborhoods only. Parks had steps at the entrances to discourage mothers from bringing prams into the park -- thus making sure that genteel strollers would not have to witness the unpleasantness of a diaper change. All forced onto NYC residents by a man who was never elected to any public office.)
The original MS ran to 1,050,000 words, and had to be shortened to be printed as a single volume. I almost wish it could be published in its original form, so I could read more. It was that good.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)"Urban renewal" destroyed Black and brown neighborhoods.
Highways and transit systems designed to further segregation and coddle white people's fears of having anything to do with Black people nearby.
Shame is written into the very roadmaps of our cities.