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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhite neighbor asks & has police search Black woman's home--She can't afford a home & Porsche.
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The story starts one way, but the contents show a troubled history.
Virginia food bank employee fired after telling Black neighbor 'You're not the right color'
According to the Progress Index, a video posted to Facebook by Quetta Good shows her getting into an altercation with the neighbor who can be seen wearing a name tag reading "Rachel."
According to a Facebook post by Good, "Let's rewind back to the beginning when she called the police to search my house for drugs because her words were I couldn't afford my house, I never leave the house so I had to sell drugs because I'm black and had a Porsche. Yes the POLICE SURE DID SEARCH MY HOUSE FOR DRUGS SMH. No drugs were found I work from home!! This has been going on for MONTHS>
The altercation where the N-word was used was shared widely which led to the head of the Chesterfield Food Bank to issue a statement saying the employee is no longer working with them, adding, "It was between neighbors. It is still sad and an unfortunate situation."
On Facebook, CFB CEO Kim Hill wrote, "In response to this situation, we have terminated this employee. We remain committed to creating and providing a positive, uplifting, and encouraging environment for our staff, volunteers, and clients."
More, including a video, at:
https://www.rawstory.com/racist-woman/
The fucking police search the Black woman's home because the White lady suspects something. WTF?
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Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)What a waste of oxygen.
ShazzieB
(16,697 posts)AZ8theist
(5,550 posts)Justice matters.
(6,964 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)stopdiggin
(11,438 posts)IronLionZion
(45,689 posts)something doesn't seem right about this juicy tidbit. If true, there's grounds for lawsuits.
wnylib
(21,832 posts)without just cause and a warrant. A neighbor's suspicion based solely on the car .and the woman always being home is NOT just cause for a search.
Something isn't right here.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Iggo
(47,613 posts)SergeStorms
(19,208 posts)That's according to the article in the Daily Mail, anyway. I'm not sure where the name Rachel came from.
Iggo
(47,613 posts)sop
(10,341 posts)This doesn't make sense.
ShazzieB
(16,697 posts)I have no trouble whatsoever imagining that woman giving them permission to search her home. No, she wasn't legally obligated to even let them in, but we have all seen, time and time again, that things don't tend to go well for poc who don't "cooperate" with the police. I'm sure she is well aware of that and decided to take the path of least resistance, especially knowing there was nothing for them to find.
It makes plenty of sense to me.
doc03
(35,484 posts)in their neighborhood. She was asked if they were doing anything illegal she says no they just don't belong here and she wanted them arrested.
samsingh
(17,609 posts)WHITT
(2,868 posts)What the hell ever happened to mindin' your own damn bidness ?
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)... they will be defended by that areas police union hell or hard water
underpants
(183,108 posts)But Frank didnt listen to me
Iggo
(47,613 posts)JHB
(37,168 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)their real name was better! Would you call a Black woman Jemima if that was not her name?
Deuxcents
(16,487 posts)Iggo
(47,613 posts)marble falls
(57,756 posts)ShazzieB
(16,697 posts)You think the black woman should lose HER job because her neighbor is a raging whack job racist? Are you kidding?
Silent3
(15,463 posts)That's just bizarre to take it that way.
AllyCat
(16,285 posts)Both when there are only two in the story: the person who had her home illegally searched and the racist white neighbor lady. There is no reason to think the former should lose her job. But posing the question suggests it.
Silent3
(15,463 posts)...is probably shocked if that's what happened, not expecting that's what should happen.
Blue Owl
(50,628 posts)I hope it goes viral so nobody makes the mistake of hiring that miserable racist!
Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)
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dsc
(52,183 posts)the person searched had to permit the search, since they couldn't have had a warrant. But the fact they wanted to was still outrageous.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And if she got manhandled or shot in the process, you'd know what folks here would be saying. ("She should have just complied."
dsc
(52,183 posts)Depending on the condition of my house on a given day, I might have said yes but since I usually have a less than pristine house I would have likely said no. I admit, that being white would make that easier. One big reason for a no here is that drugs are very small and thus a search to rule out drugs would be very intrusive. I would be more willing to say yes to an item big enough that they could walk through and not disturb.
Solomon
(12,326 posts)house without a warrant!? Why on God's green earth would you do that? Do you realize how bad the cops rip up a home when searching a house? Its not like on tv you know, or maybe it is for white folks but when they search a black person's residence they trash it, rip it to shreds.
dsc
(52,183 posts)but a search for say a missing child might be a yes. A drug search, would of necessity, be intrusive.
So if the police provide the right target of the search, just let them in? If they say the magic word "child" then open the door? Do you usually have random children in your house without you knowing about it? Weird.
The correct response to all police requests for voluntary actions on your part is "no". Don't volunteer information. Don't agree to voluntary searches of your self or your property. Don't agree to voluntarily go anywhere. Don't sign any documents. They are not your friends. Their intention is to arrest somebody for a crime, and if you have their attention it might as well be you.
dsc
(52,183 posts)a search for drugs would entail taking apart my place, so yea, I would be more inclined to agree to the first than the second.
Voltaire2
(13,331 posts)unlike a search warrant, a consent search is not constrained by the specifications of the (obviously non-existent) warrant. Anything they find is fair game. You gave up your 4th amendment rights. Good luck with that.
drmeow
(5,044 posts)Unfortunately the reality is that if the police come in to search your house they are likely to tear it apart no matter how "easily visible" what they are searching for might be. They can always claim they were searching for a hidden room or hidden trap door it a space where you might be hiding something large.
electric_blue68
(15,050 posts)How disgusting, demeaning, insulting, not mention potentially dangerous for her!
😳🤬🤬🤬🤪😠😠
tanyev
(42,707 posts)It was fascinating and disturbing in that I kept asking myself How have I never heard of most of this? Rachel in the OP would never believe it.
electric_blue68
(15,050 posts)since my folks raised me right I didn't bat an eyelash.
Most of my black friends on my earlier life plus work colleagues, bosses have been lower to middle Middle class, Now that I'm on the poor side I've got poor black friends.A lot depends on situations and circumstances at least that's how it seems to me.
niyad
(114,060 posts)female millionaire.
tanyev
(42,707 posts)But Im sorry to say that was the first Id heard of her.
niyad
(114,060 posts)electric_blue68
(15,050 posts)niyad
(114,060 posts)Haggard Celine
(16,869 posts)There are a good many successful black people where I live. It wouldn't shock me to see a black woman driving a Porsche or living in an expensive home. Sure, percentage wise, black people are poorer than whites, but it's not like there's a rule that black people can't have money. These people who call the police on black people for being wealthy or call their neighbors n-----s are whack jobs. Maybe people should be reporting them to authorities for being insane and needing treatment. They are definitely a danger to others.
Lancero
(3,020 posts)Racist assholes, the lot of them.
Mazeltov Cocktail
(569 posts)cate94
(2,817 posts)I cant believe these people. Idiots. I include the cops in this as well.
lame54
(35,388 posts)electric_blue68
(15,050 posts)RevBrotherThomas
(839 posts)I see what you did there...
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Something doesn't add up here. There would have been a search warrant and probable cause, all documented. And even if he invited them to search her home, they would not have without a warrant because even with permission she could later sue when an attorney told her she just did not know her rights at the time.
We have to be careful with the internet, this story does not pass the smell test. Sounds like there was a racist Karen but the searching the home bit does not add up.
Elessar Zappa
(14,162 posts)to virulent racists, which this woman clearly is.
Response to Jon King (Reply #20)
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OneBro
(1,159 posts)Dunno about the rest of this story, but police often search without warrants. Sometimes the person just lets them in; sometimes the cops lie or intimidate their way in, and sometimes they use brute force to gain entry - all without a warrant.
I can assure you that a homeowner later claiming that they didnt know their rights when they willingly gave consent to search - whether its consent to search a home, a car, or the person - is NOT in ANY court going to be a winning argument.
They can come into your home (with invitation) -- but going through your drawers, freezer, toilet tank, shelves in the closet? Not without cause -- and a warrant. And, yeah -- if it did happen -- it would get tossed out of most courts.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)driver objects cops will detain or have the car towed while they get a telephonic warrant. People submit because they dont want the hassle of dealing with a tow. Invariably the cops find a coupe of weed seeds or a Xanax and bingo you are arrested. People have a very difficult time just saying no to cops. Same thing with confessions. Cop says if you want to go home tonight cooperate and give a statement that invariably also makes the States case. To many cops with nothing to do but harass mostly non-whites driving through town.
stopdiggin
(11,438 posts)Even if invited into home -- LE is not going to do a warrant-less 'search.' (on the basis of a neighbor's call) So that part at least is an exaggeration, or a fabrication.
LisaL
(44,986 posts)So she might have agreed to it.
stopdiggin
(11,438 posts)w/ permission. Turning the place out? Nope. And -- I really question whether the police are likely to make such a request -- based on a neighbor complaint. Sounds like a courtesy call to me. Effort to 'resolve' neighbor issue.
localroger
(3,636 posts)The problem with giving them permission for "just a walk through" is that once you've given permission for a search, they can do any kind of search they want. Only a warrant constrains the bounds of the search, you as a citizen can't.
stopdiggin
(11,438 posts)Which I suspect was more a courtesy call, and perhaps a quick walk through (if that). And, of course it is ill advised for any homeowner to 'consent' to a warrant-less search. No one would (or should) advise such a stupid move. (vehicle search places a subject in a slightly different position). But I'm suspicious of the narrative (police wanting to search a house, on the basis of a neighbor complaint) here.
ShazzieB
(16,697 posts)Are you kidding me?
soldierant
(6,981 posts)and have had their sense of smell impaired.
I mean, just because something is illegal and an abuse of authority doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
I grant the story is not confirmed, but that doesn't make it incredible on the face of it in the US today. I wish that weren't so, but it is.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)People allow the police to search their premises and cars all of the time.
The primary reason is that most people are not comfortable refusing police requests to "come in and have a look around" on various pretexts which they use to gain that permission.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Thanks in advance.
Lasher
(27,691 posts)Celerity
(43,850 posts)bbernardini
(9,939 posts)The nametag clearly says "Hilary" on it.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)by her employer...Her name is Hilary....she's was in the process of being wiped from their website
KatK
(186 posts)iluvtennis
(19,923 posts)RVN VET71
(2,705 posts)Lots missing here:
Cops searching a home on the basis of a single phone call? I seriously doubt that was the case. Did they have a warrant? Did Ms. Good invite them in? WTF?
Also, the altercation, itself, seems to have been an eruption of a long period of mutual animosity. What were its causes?
Yes, I believe the white woman deserved to be fired. But, no, I have no idea what motivated her.
Story needs a lot more info before anyone outside of the police, Ms Good and Rachel Whatzername can tell what happened here.
SergeStorms
(19,208 posts)apparenly their children don't get along, and "Hilary" has been calling her other names before this, but it only escalated into this racial diatribe on the day in question. The white woman has more than a few problems, if you ask me.
RVN VET71
(2,705 posts)Still wold like to know why the cops searched Ms Goods home for drugs. You dont get a warrant based on some mouthy womans insinuations -- and it doesnt make sense that anyone, let alone a black woman besieged by a crazy white woman, would just give them permission. (Also, what kind of search was performed? Did the police enter, have a cup of tea and leave or did they rummage through her underwear drawer and overturn her book-cases like they do on TV?)
Demovictory9
(32,517 posts)WHITT
(2,868 posts)for the police to search her house, just to end the neighborhood rumors. Ridiculous that she had to jump through that hoop.
luckone
(21,646 posts)abused at my home . Since I didnt have any children at the time , I denied any abuse and she asked if I would mind if she could look inside . I said sure but was angry
I was also a little worried because I had a Inlaw apartment He was related but not by blood anyway it could be viewed as an illegal apartment but then when she went downstairs with me and saw they were real snarky to me so she could obviously see it wasnt just a renter and then when he found out what was going on so he could show her his area he started giving her a lot of shit Then she just finally said there is no kid here and before I asked if I could find out who made the report
Her answer was no because they cant give it out because then people would be afraid to call in a report I asked if it goes on some record she said just the call but also the result of no substantial finding
whatever I didnt have any children at the time to hide so I knew it would be a useless search
Also police are at your door with a neighbor who looks like that saying your a drug dealer who got the police to actually ask you that so you know where cops head is at and you have a Porsche in the driveway and are black again I would say Ok waste your time assholes
Put in a complaint later but I surely would not argue to add to rumors
All these people saying they would stop the police from coming in or this is fake because no one does that well, the police maybe wouldnt be coming to your door anyway , so you dont really know what youd do in their shoes
Happy Hoosier
(7,507 posts)Unless they produce a warrant. I sure as hell am not afraid to assert my rights. Heck, I once refused to speak to a cop without a lawyer present, cause the cop was clearly fishing on a matter that had nothing to do with me.
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)who wears a name tag to work afford a house in that neighborhood.
And do not besmirch the good name of Rachel. Tt is wrong a touch antisemitic... This one is a one L'd Hilary.
GaYellowDawg
(4,452 posts)"L"ost her job.
niyad
(114,060 posts)recognized as America's first self-made female millionaire (back in the days when a million was actually a lot of money!).
Never heard of her? Of course you have not, because you are felony STUPID.
drmeow
(5,044 posts)one of my personal unconscious biases is that I am still sometimes surprised when I see someone of color driving a car like a Porsche. However, my reaction when that happens is to be embarrassed and to remind myself that it is MY BIAS (also to think "I hope the cops don't pull them over!" but that isn't a bias but, rather, a legitimate fear for their safety) - it is NOT to assume they are drug dealers and call the cops on them. Geez.
localroger
(3,636 posts)I've known a couple of Black people who told me they would have gotten a flashier car but they knew it would be an invitation for police harassment and this sort of thing.
drmeow
(5,044 posts)I do sometimes think "that's brave" - which also pisses me off cause it should not require bravery to buy and expensive/fancy/flashy car (unless you don't have the income which has nothing to do with skin tone and every thing to do with money management)
rockfordfile
(8,712 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,585 posts)That's outrageous! Every part of this is outrageous....except for her getting fired. That was totally on point.
live love laugh
(13,242 posts)Skittles
(153,374 posts)no indeed
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)... to do anything
Carlitos Brigante
(26,514 posts)RandySF
(60,045 posts)I see a nice settlement in Ms. Good's future.
localroger
(3,636 posts)People agree to searches all the time because the police schmooze or intimidate them or roll out a pretext. They shouldn't, but they do. Once the cops have permission for "a quick look around" they can turn the place upside down if they want to. The only one who is going to get in trouble here is Karenzilla, who might be tagged for filing a false police report but more substantially just lost her job.
obamanut2012
(26,205 posts)Not surprised.
I hope she sues everyone and wins.
Mad_Machine76
(24,464 posts)Fervently hoping that the police didnt actually respond to her. Im depressed to know that Karens are still able to get police to do their dirty work.
onenote
(42,903 posts)Bettie
(16,154 posts)the cops searched this woman's home on the say-so of a neighbor?
FFS.
SallyHemmings
(1,825 posts)it has to be drug money...
If the black woman would have done the same thing would she have been arrested for wasting the time of the police.