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Eugene

(61,974 posts)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:42 PM Nov 2021

Ghislaine Maxwell prosecutors can call accusers 'victims', judge rules

Source: The Guardian

Ghislaine Maxwell prosecutors can call accusers ‘victims’, judge rules

Defense team had requested word be banned during New York trial this month

Victoria Bekiempis in New York
Mon 1 Nov 2021 21.58 GMT

Prosecutors in Ghislaine Maxwell’s sex trafficking case will be permitted to use the words “victim” and “minor” in referencing accusers during her forthcoming trial in federal court in New York, it was ruled on Monday.

Judge Alison Nathan’s decision permitting the use of “victim” stemmed from a challenge by Maxwell’s defense team, which had requested that the word be barred from the trial, due to begin in Manhattan this month.

Nathan said: “Precluding the word is both unnecessary and impractical.”

“It is appropriate to use the terms as representative of its litigation position,” Nathan said of the prosecution.

This proceeding is only the second time that Maxwell, the British media heiress and former girlfriend of the late financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, has appeared in a courtroom in person for her case, amid restrictions relating to the coronavirus pandemic.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/01/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-accusers-victims

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Ghislaine Maxwell prosecutors can call accusers 'victims', judge rules (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2021 OP
So when is she going to cut a deal? Takket Nov 2021 #1
This is the appropriate ruling LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #2
They are victims of Epstein and not of her. twin_ghost Nov 2021 #3
Many of them are also victims of Jizzlane Sur Zobra Nov 2021 #4
Ghislaine Maxwell is charged as a participant in Epstein's crimes. Eugene Nov 2021 #6
I guess they can be called victims if they haven't been shot Silent3 Nov 2021 #5
May the rest of her days be filled with lawyers Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #7

Takket

(21,725 posts)
1. So when is she going to cut a deal?
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:46 PM
Nov 2021

Surely her lawyers have explained to her there is no getting out of this. I can’t believe she hasn’t decided to take a deal in the hopes of possibly seeing the light of day before she dies.

Eugene

(61,974 posts)
6. Ghislaine Maxwell is charged as a participant in Epstein's crimes.
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:59 AM
Nov 2021

She is charged with enticing and transporting the underage girls (grooming, procuring, trafficking) and then lying under oath in sworn depositions.

If someone materially contributes to a criminal act, they can held responsible or even be considered an equal participant.

Audrey Strauss, the Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, William F. Sweeney Jr., the Assistant Director-in-Charge of the New York Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), and Dermot Shea, Commissioner of the New York City Police Department (“NYPD”), announced that GHISLANE MAXWELL was arrested this morning and charged with enticing a minor to travel to engage in criminal sexual activity, transporting a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, conspiracy to commit both of those offenses, and perjury in connection with a sworn deposition. The Indictment unsealed today alleges that between at least in or about 1994 through 1997, MAXWELL and co-conspirator Jeffrey Epstein exploited girls as young as 14, including by enticing them to travel and transporting them for the purpose of engaging in illegal sex acts. As alleged, knowing that Epstein had a preference for young girls, MAXWELL played a critical role in the grooming and abuse of minor victims that took place in locations including New York, Florida, and New Mexico. In addition, as alleged, MAXWELL made several false statements in sworn depositions in 2016. MAXWELL is expected to be presented this afternoon in the in federal court in New Hampshire. This case is assigned to U.S. District Judge Alison J. Nathan.


https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-charged-manhattan-federal-court-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually

Silent3

(15,451 posts)
5. I guess they can be called victims if they haven't been shot
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 01:28 AM
Nov 2021

Otherwise, they'd be rioters and looters.

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