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That's it, we're done as in finished as in we can't stand it anymore!
Less than ten months since the failed coup and it's hitting home that the coup did not fail, it's only been delayed. There are far too many racist, fascist, ignorant, hate filled bastards in this country and they've succeeded at turning this place into a shit hole.
I'm well into my 60's and I've been fighting against these greedy hate filled m-fu%kers my entire adult life and not only has it not gotten better, it's worse than it's ever been and about to go down hill from here.
We are lucky as my wife and I have a modest nest egg, we are retired and due to my ancestry we can get dual citizenship in a western democracy in Europe. We've been holding out hope that this country would come to it's senses, but that appears totally hopeless now. After four years of tRump and the violent insurrection we thought that we had finally turned the corner towards sanity. Well, last night killed those illusions - this place is f&cked up!
Like 1930's Germany, it's time to get out before we can't get out!
I'm sorry, but it's no longer my burden - I'm too old and too tired. If younger people want a democracy and a better place to live, it's their burden now and it's up to them to fix this rat's nest!
CousinIT
(9,279 posts)Stick a fork in America. It's done.
America is no place for a Democracy. Not anymore.
I'm slightly less than a decade away from retirement. Now I have to find somewhere else to go when I do retire. Fuck.
melm00se
(4,998 posts)the Democratic incumbents and their strategists have fallen down on the job by failing to sell their vision to their electorate while the Republicans, in this cycle, appear to have done a better job.
This is not uncommon in the normal political cycle. Whoever is in power tends to get fat, dumb and lazy. Politicians keep forgetting this fact and think that their electorate is not bright enough to recognize that and they get their asses handed to them in an election.
Out of 22 midterm elections since 1934, there have been a total of 2 midterm elections where the president's party has not lost House seats and 5 midterm elections without a loss of Senate seats.
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)... not going to happen nationally
tritsofme
(17,449 posts)Not anything resembling a long shot
Strange revisionism.
uponit7771
(90,378 posts)... would've won now that I know that VA has ... NEVER ... reelected an incumbent gov of the party that took the white house.
We lost VA by 15% after 09 and NJ too, now we'll win NJ and came in 2% of winning VA against an opponent that ran away from Putin's Whore.
No way the GQP runs away from him nationally
melm00se
(4,998 posts)that it was independent voters who swung the election in favor of Youngkin and Sears makes now difference.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/02/politics/virginia-exit-polls/index.html
chia
(2,244 posts)onenote
(42,885 posts)Botany
(70,677 posts)bif
(22,835 posts)This country has had it. I too have a decent nest egg and need to start thinking about a foreign country to retire in, since America has turned into a foreign country to me. I've been hearing about the pendulum swinging back to the left for 40 fucking years. It keeps stopping closer to the middle and now right of center. And they call moderates socialists! Ha!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)though, I would personally greatly appreciate it. For Democrats, of course.
After all, votes uncast are still power that will help elect candidates on election days; and just like guns that go off unaimed, uncast votes can do great harm.
MineralMan
(146,359 posts)It just isn't.
peggysue2
(10,854 posts)x1000. Though I understand the sentiment, defeatism is not an option. Not if we value the future for our kids and grand babies or if we believe that honoring the sacrifices of past generations is an obligation, not a choice.
Are we tired and distraught? Of course. But the fight goes on because the alternative is thoroughly unacceptable.
panader0
(25,816 posts)There are a multitude of problems in other countries, even European democracies.
I get weary of the 'sky is falling' group I read here.
Are there problems here? Of course. But if you must run away--adios.
DeeNice
(575 posts)We don't run. We stand and fight.
Wounded Bear
(58,799 posts)See ya. Many of us don't have that option.
nolabear
(42,009 posts)Ask the descendants of slaves. Ask those who were in Japanese internment camps. Ask the bodies swaying in the trees while people posed for photos underneath. Ask the women arrested for wanting to vote. Ask the Native American children stolen away to schools where they tried to torture their identities out of them. Ask the indentured servants. Ask them.
This is a process. Its unbelievably hard and tenuous. Get out of the way if you dont want to be part of it.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)I really do not like this country, and would very much like to leave. The only thing keeping me here is my parents are both in their 80's and still alive.
The OP is exactly right, the country still being advertised as the great America, is gone. We're pathetic now, and filled with 40-50% of pathetic citizens, who really don't give a shit about Democracy. Just a bunch of flag waving pieces of shit.
I wish no ill will on anybody from DU who still wish to fight for the country, I just think it is an utter waste of time at this point. I expect more of the same in '22, when we'll lose both the House & Senate, and then '24, when we stand to get the 2nd coming of TFG. I SEE IT HAPPENING AS CLEAR AS THE SKY I SEE OUTSIDE MY WINDOW.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... but too many generations removed to be able to claim any sort of dual-citizenship. I could easily see living out the rest of my days in Bavaria, or Ireland. It's just a fantasy for me... but a lovely one nevertheless.
albacore
(2,409 posts).. and I wonder where those posters' ancestors are from.
People migrate. People leave situations they find untenable. It's the story of our species. My wife and I would have left in 2000, but we have family here. Cowardice...? not really. Self-interest. After a lifetime of fighting this shit, maybe we need to hand off to people who perhaps can do better than we did. And who are younger and stronger.
Augy's in his 60's....shit, I'm 78... and we've seen this country thru some pretty bad times, and if we say that it's never been this bad, and that the future looks not much better, why not listen instead of attack? How about a little "You tried... rest now and we'll take over the fight."
We're failing to change this country...primarily because the rightwing has entrenched itself in the media, but more importantly, entrenched itself in the minds of the gullible.
I was a history teacher, and god knows I tried to overcome that stranglehold of willful ignorance, and I did pretty well, too. But it now appears that my efforts were just pissing against the national tide.
We need something new... some change in communication or education or candidates or something that will break that RW stranglehold.
It has to come from the next generation.
BannonsLiver
(16,549 posts)Hope that clears it up.
madville
(7,413 posts)Sometimes I go weeks without looking at political stuff, its a nice reset.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)I'll fight the miserable rat bastards till the day I die.
BannonsLiver
(16,549 posts)The melodrama.