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bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 07:46 PM Nov 2021

Enough is enough. It's time for the Democratic party to accept the truth

Last edited Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Thr truth is that there is no longer a Republican party.

The truth is that the Republican party that existed prior to Ronald Reagan is no more.

The truth is the Republican party began to devolve, slowly at first, but at an accelerated pace when the first manifestation of the Tea Party, Newt Gingrich became speaker.

The truth is that the likes of Jordan and Cruz and their ilk enjoy being identified as Republicans.

The truth is that being identified as Republicans gives them shelter.

It's time to call it like it is.

It's time for all Democrats to tell the truth.

It's time for every Democrat, whether elected or not, to refer to the opposition as the Tea Party whenever the opportunity exists.

The next time Chuck or Nancy or Joe speak in public they need to refer to the opposition as Tea Party Minority Leaders McConnell etc.

When Chuck Toad refers to Republicans during an interview the Democrat responding should ensure that the response directly includes the term Tea Party in lieu of Republican.


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Enough is enough. It's time for the Democratic party to accept the truth (Original Post) bluecollar2 Nov 2021 OP
This isn't the tea party we knew ten years ago. padfun Nov 2021 #1
I disagree bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #2
After looking into it a bit more, I'm thinking maybe you're right. padfun Nov 2021 #26
Most people by this time have no idea or interest in who or what the tea party was. enough Nov 2021 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #4
We need to define who they are and relentlessly repeat it Generic Brad Nov 2021 #9
Thank you...n/t bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #10
It's apparent, based on the responses bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #12
They are liars Generic Brad Nov 2021 #23
Tea Party? 2012 called, wants you to join the present- the term is White Nationalists Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #5
Fascist Party is what I was thinking mvd Nov 2021 #6
+1 Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 #7
That's not going to weed work though bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #20
Well I just think Tea Party doesn't quite fit mvd Nov 2021 #25
The Tea Party was far more Populist than the modern Republicans, so I can't agree. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #8
Can you show me where the Tea Party populism reflected bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #13
I'd have to go dig back through Upstate NY's elections a decade ago. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #14
Thanks... bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #15
Oh, no need for editing. I think your general premise is on point. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #16
I get where you're coming from bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #18
Probably not, no. Although politics has gotten crazy in the past few decades, so... n/t Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #19
Thanks... bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #17
I think we should just call them fascists. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2021 #11
I wish there was a voting option for eye roll. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #21
Done...n/t bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #22
2009 called and wants its dated movement back Celerity Nov 2021 #24
i don't know. people don't pay attention Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #27

padfun

(1,792 posts)
1. This isn't the tea party we knew ten years ago.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:01 PM
Nov 2021

This is a Christian Nationalist movement with strong intimidation from militia's. The rest of the Republicans are too scared to fight it or have decided to ride this through.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
2. I disagree
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:09 PM
Nov 2021

The Tea Party if ten years ago were Racist Christian Nationalists who targeted the former Republican party and are continuing their internal purge.

They've run out Cheney and Kinzinger and a few others.


Trump "gets" the Tea Party...it's time we do to.

padfun

(1,792 posts)
26. After looking into it a bit more, I'm thinking maybe you're right.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 04:53 AM
Nov 2021

I want to poke a bit more, but this does seem to be the same group with additions. It's the newer additions that threw me off.

I'm going to poke some more but I did swear off Political sites when I retired a few years ago. I found that they just make me angry, but lately I'm thinking it is best to know what the enemy is thinking, and the more I read their comments, the more it disgusts me

Response to bluecollar2 (Original post)

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
23. They are liars
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:34 PM
Nov 2021

Carve that on a mill stone. Tie that stone to a rope wrapped around their necks. Push them out of the boat and let their lies take them down.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
20. That's not going to weed work though
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:29 PM
Nov 2021

Although true it goes into the " name calling" category.

Personally, I think Schumer or Pelosi or Psaki using Tea Party as a moniker cuts a lot closer to the bone if they were to use " Tea Party"

mvd

(65,187 posts)
25. Well I just think Tea Party doesn't quite fit
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:46 PM
Nov 2021

I am personally fine with name calling in this case. They do it all the time with us.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
8. The Tea Party was far more Populist than the modern Republicans, so I can't agree.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:26 PM
Nov 2021

And depending on where they were elected, in some ways they were actually halfway "Progressive", more than a few current Senators I can think of.

At this point calling the Cons "Tea Party" would actually be complimenting them, IMO.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
14. I'd have to go dig back through Upstate NY's elections a decade ago.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:53 PM
Nov 2021

There were a few local TP candidates back up north that ran on things like medical MJ, expanded Medicare, and social and economic justice reforms.

They didn't win, but they ran on them. The chances of me finding campaign resources from 2012 from failed political pushes from non-primary parties is ... Well, ya know what? I'll try. If I can find anything, I'll get back to you. I don't expect I'll be able to, but I'll give it a good effort.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
15. Thanks...
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:06 PM
Nov 2021

I understand where you're coming from.

My experience is based upon what happened in Texas...

The Tea Party down there used the "populist" theme to advance a white supremacist, Christian nationalist theme.

Show me some tea party populists that actually ran on a progressive agenda and I'd be happy to edit/revise my OP.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
16. Oh, no need for editing. I think your general premise is on point.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:09 PM
Nov 2021

They're not Republicans at all any more. As others said, maybe a type of proto-fascist or actual Fascist party, but not the Republicans of old.

The problem I'm running into with pinning down the Tea Party platforms from up there in New York is apparently there were several -different- tea parties. Some running from the Left and some running from the Right but both using the Tea Party mantle. So there very well may have been left-wing Tea Partiers running using the label that espoused left-wing Populist views, but using a right-wing name.

I'll keep digging, but it's a hell of an anthill to navigate.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
18. I get where you're coming from
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:14 PM
Nov 2021

But I'm sure that those to whom you refer would never condone what happened to the original Tea Party movement.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
17. Thanks...
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:10 PM
Nov 2021

I understand where you're coming from.

My experience is based upon what happened in Texas...

The Tea Party down there used the "populist" theme to advance a white supremacist, Christian nationalist theme.

Show me some tea party populists that actually ran on a progressive agenda and I'd be happy to edit/revise my OP.

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