I'm Losing Patience With MSNBC....

[global1]

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It's subtle - but many of the hosts and talking heads on MSNBC are shrewdly attacking Biden and the Dems and insidiously swaying voters away from Biden and the Dems and pushing them toward the Repugs.

I think a lot of Biden's recent lower poll numbers are attributed to MSNBC and the other MSM outlets (even the Late Night talk show hosts that make fun of Biden & the Dems) - every chance they get. They attack Biden and the Dems - ever so subliminally - using tactics from Vance Packard's Hidden Persuaders book to manipulate voters very handily.

I'm starting to call MSNBC - an insidious Fox ally - Fox Lite - as many of the hosts and talking heads on it seem to be trying to copy in an 'oh so subtle way' an attack.

Is anyone else getting this same feeling?

[OhZone]

1. Agreed

Yeah, i'm starting to avoid Colbert too.

Seth seems a little better.

[global1]

4. I Like Seth - But He Always Manages To....

post a picture of Tr**p every time he mentions his name.

We all know what Tr**p looks like and it's not necessary to keep his mug in our face.

Bottom line the MSM keeps Tr**p in our psyche. Even if they are knocking Tr**p - they have to keep reminding us of him.

It's time to just ignore Tr**p and put him in the past - but they keep bucking up his potential for coming back in 2024 and they are making him a - virtual head - of the Repug Party.

[dogknob]

2. What do you expect from a Comcast-owned network? n/t

[BannonsLiver]

3. Cable news is pure hot garbage.

[LenaBaby61]

19. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[onecaliberal]

5. They're all the same. They're anti-democratic.

[LenaBaby61]

20. REALLY This ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

[a kennedy]

56. Why?? I don't understand this, I so totally agree but I just don't get it....why??

[onecaliberal]

65. Power and money. It's the only thing they care about.

[XanaDUer2]

6. I've cut way back on msnbc nt

[Evolve Dammit]

37. same here

[BigmanPigman]

44. So did I.

I decided I was sick and tired of hearing Biden -slamming. I have a choice and I choose not to watch this BS. I read a few days ago that ratings are going down at MSNBC. Gee, I wonder why....

Brian Williams is smart for leaving.

[CrispyQ]

7. The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it. bumper sticker

They're in it for the ratings, not the country. Trump was great for ratings. The corporate heads may not see much diff doing biz in a democracy or a fascist regime.

[Chuuku Davis]

8. I don't know

Remember "Its the economy stupid."

I have three grandsons that live with us half the time. They eat a lot of good food. Our grocery bill is now $650/month.
Last year it was $450.
And they have something 4 nights a week which requires a 45 mile round trip drive.
We have a Prius V wagon thank goodness but our gas bill is still up 40%.
Filled up the propane tank in August it was $700 vs $400 last year.

This is starting to hurt.

[global1]

17. I Hear You - But I Don't Blame Biden And The Dems For The Economy.....

The slide came after the pandemic hit and I attribute a lot of our economy woes to the pandemic, Tr**p and the Repugs (think their tax break for the wealthy and their lack of cooperation with Biden and the Dems).

[LenaBaby61]

22. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[certainot]

48. we let a few hundred blowhards on 1500 coordinated unchallenged radio stations decide tone and buzz

but because the analysts don't factor for it they absorb that buzz too - as if those alternate reality constituencies that call biden a fascist communist senile mastermind are legit

msnbc is full of that analysis but it's worse elsewhere. all the attention they (like rachel) gave to the giuliani powell four seasons press conference and none of their research teams noticed it was timed to start with the limbaugh show and he already knew the script and echoed it to a much larger audience. trump was a talk radio president and they didn't notice. the insurrectionists are dittoheads but don't even get polled for it. russians have been using rw radio here and around the world at least a decade but they haven't noticed. trump used limbaugh/talk radio to call COVID a hoax to make it worse hoping to tank the economy create chaos and be able to call a national emergency and delay elections etc., and they didn't notice.

[a kennedy]

58. AND SERIOUSLY THE PANDEMIC WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN SO BAD IF THE PREVIOUS

piece of shit would have done soooooooooooooooooo many things differently. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[Chuuku Davis]

68. I am not talking about us.

Independents and rethugs are blaming Biden.

[Binkie The Clown]

9. We should never tolerate ideological impurity.

[BlueJac]

10. Months ago we cut way back on CNN & MSNBC...

Feels good to not hear all the negative comments about Biden, he is trying to help this country, not just the rich. That might be why they bash Biden.

[2naSalit]

15. He did...

Kill the cash cow of war in Afghanistan after all. Of course the bashing will continue from corporate media heavily invested in cash cows.

[global1]

23. So Are You Telling Me They're Going For The Repugs Back In Power And We're Gonna Get....

a new war (cash cow) and we're gonna send more of our kids somewhere in the world to get killed. And all because of corporate greed?

[Wednesdays]

31. Is the bear catholic?

Does the pope shit in the woods?

[2naSalit]

52. +1

[Celerity]

64. good malaphor

here is an pop culture example from Californication

btw

I have usually seen it, when a 2 stager (as often it is shortened to just the latter)

as

Does a bear wear a funny hat?

Does the pope shit in the woods?

[Haggard Celine]

27. That's when it really started, when he ended that damned war.

A lot of them were pretty positive about Biden until then. Ending that war cost some powerful people a lot of money, and they apparently are not going to forget it. I hate to say it, but I really don't think Biden's going to make it for another term. He'll step aside for someone else, lose to the Republican nominee, or he'll die.

[ancianita]

40. Maybe. IF it started then, it was because corp media were covering up

Trump's abandoning of 19 military bases in Syria, bragging that Biden couldn't stop him. Their silence was coverup for the facts that as commander-in-chief he left F-15's at two airbases, ground weapons like tanks and artillery for the Turks and Russians. Nevermind that he airlifted absolutely no one, no Kurdish allies.
Criminal.

If media ever compared the two withdrawals, they'd have to cover a lot more information that would guarantee Biden's 2024 win ...

even with red state gerrymandering and nullification of the popular vote that's coming, which media won't dare cover, either.

That's what that was about. Veterans of these wars know.
Media hollering is often corporate coverup of worse news for their criminal presidents.

I don't think media was ever positive about Biden, and what it conveys now has always been media's plan.

[Haggard Celine]

54. Wow! Didn't know about the bases in Syria,

or the planes, tanks, and artillery. Thanks for the informative reply!

[LakeArenal]

63. I did read that they disabled tanks and weaponry but who knows.

[Evolve Dammit]

38. Doesn't General Dynamics own NBC? Westinghouse CBS? Microsoft MSNBC. Disney ABC?

[LenaBaby61]

24. Months ago we cut way back on CNN & MSNBC...

I cut back on CNN even before Biden became president. And now, I've cut way down on MSNBC. I never watch those Sunday Morning GQP political shows either. Friends have the stomach do. How they can watch "Both sides do it" Toad and "But her emails," Mitchell, I've NO clue.

[JohnSJ]

11. I don't think it is so subtle, and neither is CNN. Jake Tapper started

the ball rolling after the Afghanistan withdrawal, and others quickly followed suit

[Submariner]

12. The late Jack Welsh CEO of GE War Machine and NBC/MSNBC

set NBC on this course. Welsh gave Tim Russert $7M salary and got Timmy to turn republican during the Lewinsky fiasco. Timmy's Meet The Republicans show was known as easy street interviews for Cheney to lay out his (losing) war plans every Sunday morning.

Jack fired Phil Donahue, the ONLY Liberal on MSNBC during its 24 hour day. Out of a 168 hour broadcast week, Phil Donahue occupied 5 hours a week, and they couldn't handle it.

Republicans rule these network.

[LenaBaby61]

26. Winner, winner chicken dinner!!!!!

[FakeNoose]

39. Yes - every word is true - Jack Welch was evil

Welch also started General Electric down the road of shutting American factories and exporting jobs to third-world countries. He started doing it in the early 1970's, and the rest of corporate America was amazed when they saw the profits and tax advantages Welch got for GE. Then they ALL started doing it.

But about turning NBC and MSNBC into "Repuke Ground Zero" - well that was Jack Welch's own personal crusade. Maybe he was the patron saint of Roger Ailes? I don't know.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

60. I miss seeing Donahue.

Wish all the channels were not owned by fucking rich rethuglicans.

Bring anti trust against the corporate media.
Break them up.

Bring back the fairness doctrine

[Me.]

13. This Is Why I'm Glad Brian Williams Is Leaving

he is generally derogatory towards Dems and loves to go on about how they love to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

[a kennedy]

59. Ya think he's going to faux??

🤮 😂 🤮 🤣 🤮 😂 Might be a good place for him eh??? I don’t know......I won’t miss him at all. He to me came across as so high and mighty.....wait, is that “our” problem?? We Libs are just to high and mighty?? Ya know with our college educations en all. I do wonder where he’ll go.

[Me.]

66. Don't Know About That

did find it interesting that he wants to "spend more time with his family". Now i do seem to remember that somewhere back a discussion about him, during the time of his scandal, it was said that what he really wanted to do was be a comedian. No joke intended.

[Mike Nelson]

14. Well...

... I will turn it on for Nicolle Wallace, but I see your point. They are more and more threatened by social media. Eyes going there are not on the TV. They need higher and higher levels of conflict... to keep people watching.

[LakeArenal]

16. Colbert is continuously mocking Joe.

Even saying: Joe finally he passed...one. And the alleged fart... making him foolish and also the plummeting poll numbers “lower than trumps”
It was really pathetic.

As was the Paul Rudd skit.

It was obvious from the start and admitted with Jon Stewart.... not a Biden supporter.

Anyway in my opinion not so funny.

[a kennedy]

61. Ah, does anyone remember me saying I was done with Stephen Colbert a L. O. N. G. time ago??

I adored him on his Comedy Central show.... only 30 minutes of him being someone else....now it’s him, AND IT’S ALL ABOUT HIM. When he interviews his guests HE DOES ALL THE TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF. Sorry, we DVR him, but fly through his monologue and really most of his interviews. I agree that Sexiest Man Alive bit with Paul Rudd.....was soooooooooo hard to watch. Paul was a sport for even doing it. Nope, Stephen should go back on Comedy Central and become the conservative he really is again.

[LakeArenal]

62. I hear you now. Both he and Stewart mocking Biden was really hard to stomach.

[brooklynite]

18. No- I'm not getting this feeling...

I tend to find that a lot of people interpret motive whenever they hear news they don't like. This is NOT a positive period for the Biden Administration and reporting it as such isn't a reflection of bias.

[LiberalFighter]

21. What times are you watching?

The hosts for each hour are different. Not all of them are the same.

[global1]

25. Like I Said In My OP - Some Hosts & Talking Heads....

In some of the shows where I favor the host - some of the talking heads that they bring on take shots at Biden and the Repugs. It's not always the host.

A lot of the talking heads are masters at subliminal attacks.

[cally]

28. I quit watching

It’s constant negativity and drumbeat end of democracy. Nothing about all the folks trying. Nicolle Wallace brings on all her ex republican friends to bash Democrats. I’m done with it

[Fiendish Thingy]

29. Other than Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell, I have no idea what you're talking about...

Of course, I primarily watch only Rachel, with a little bit of Chris Hayes and Lawrence O’Donnel.

I’m not seeing the bias you allege.

[kimbutgar]

30. Daytime msnbc is fox light

Never turn it on until after 3 pm pst.

It is bash President Biden 24/7 they really miss the drama of assolini!

[PortTack]

32. totally agree.. I for one refuse to watch any of it!

[Jon King]

33. Biden's poll numbers are down cause of gas/food prices, Covid still a thing.

Our grocery and gas bills go up every week. Most people will simply blame whoever is in power. Same with Covid still interfering with life.

We know the real reasons for these issues, but the other 70% of Americans don't get into the weeds with it, they blame the current President.

Add in Repugs hammering away on crime and borders, it is what it is, a recipe for 43% approval ratings.

Very few people actually watch MSNBC that would even be influenced either way. Pretty much only Dem diehards would watch it.

[hadEnuf]

34. MSNBC is owned by a major corporation filled with Conservatives so they will never truly be on our

side, just like the rest of the media.

We need our own news channel that cheers for Democrats the way Fox cheers for Republicans. It's not the way real news should be but that's just the way it is now.

[Sherman A1]

35. Easy fix

[wildman76]

36. CNN same way

[Raven123]

41. I think they are lazy and immature. It's easier to criticize Biden than find some real news

[USALiberal]

42. Lol, this is posted weekly! STOP WATCHING! Nt

[Joinfortmill]

43. I hear you. I just had to turn off

Nicolle Wallace, of all people over Joe's speech on infrastructure bill not being good enough. Pisses me off.

[JohnnyRingo]

45. I don't want my news with a slant.

I like Maddow and I like Wallace, but the last thing I want is to get my news from DNC clones.
Often times the truth is in the middle.

[MoonRiver]

46. Yes, but it's also CNN.

I think there's a media coup going on.

[Paladin]

47. Unhappy with MSNBC for its anti-Biden/anti-Democratic slant?

Here's the best advice you'll get all day: Avoid the New York Times editorial section. The NYT crowd could (and possibly is) giving lessons to MSNBC on shitting all over the Biden admin.

[YorkRd]

49. The corporate world and the rich in general hated the tax increases for the rich!

The real third rail of politics.

[Wicked Blue]

50. The Washington Post is doing this too nt

[NurseJackie]

51. They're not the only ones who do that. I see it frequently in online discussion forums...

... and on Twitter. It's coming from people who claim to be "liberal" or "progressive" but in the end, they're just doing the GOP's work for them and making it easier for the GOP.

[betsuni]

53. I used to always watch the late night shows, now avoid. Made the mistake of watching Colbert

yesterday and only lasted a short time before getting angry.

It makes me imagine Trump smirking about someone being a loser. Like now everyone's decided Biden and the Democrats are losers and pile on the We Hate Losers wagon. Who cares if Democrats try and try and try to improve the country and all Republicans care about is stopping them? LOSER.

[MFM008]

55. Its also geared

To supress democratic voters from coming out.
Just my opinion.

[tenderfoot]

57. Biden is being Jimmy Cartered

And the media is helping.

[Karma13612]

67. I've stopped watching

SNL because their ‘funny’ interpretation of Biden isn’t the least bit funny.

Yea, I no longer watch CNN or MSNBC. They are both in anti-Dem/Biden overdrive.

It’s pathetic and demoralizing.

And on top of that, Rachel is stepping back from her daily show?? Is that true??