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Silent3

(15,450 posts)
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 04:15 PM Nov 2021

I don't think I've ever felt quite so cynical before.

Cynicism is a cheap substitute for wisdom, but the two should not be confused with one another.

At least, that's long been the advice I've given myself.

More and more, however, I'm not seeing much daylight between cynicism and wisdom.

Someone posts about new subpoenas from the 1/6 committee? The only response I can muster is a derisive, sarcastic snort about how much that will leave the recipients quaking in their boots.

Someone posts about BBB? My only thoughts are about how much more Manchin and Sinema intend to erode what's left of that bill, if they'll ever even vote for it at all, or maybe only vote for it once they've turned into into something progressives are too disgusted to vote for.

Voting rights? Hah! You think mere democracy in enough to make Manchin and Sinema give a damn about reforming their precious filibuster?

American voters being smart enough to realize the close brush with totalitarianism we just survived? Hey, they've got bigger concerns, like CRT and the price of gas, and won't care that Republicans can only deliver the racism. Gotta lash out against the party of the current President if you're unhappy! Why should anyone expect you to think deeper than that?

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I don't think I've ever felt quite so cynical before. (Original Post) Silent3 Nov 2021 OP
I've Already Written This Country Off SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #1
I'm considering it, but it's an expensive proposition, and hard to find a good country that... Silent3 Nov 2021 #2
All good points, plus FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #3
If I have any hope left at all, it's that... Silent3 Nov 2021 #5
'Getting used to the idea nothing will ever happen to trump, etc. Peregrine Took Nov 2021 #4
Well... Looks like you can cheer up a little bit friend Ohio Joe Nov 2021 #6
Wow... I had to hunt a bit for confirmation of that story first. Silent3 Nov 2021 #7

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. I've Already Written This Country Off
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 04:20 PM
Nov 2021

The primary reason I'm not looking to live elsewhere, is that my parents are still alive.

Silent3

(15,450 posts)
2. I'm considering it, but it's an expensive proposition, and hard to find a good country that...
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 04:22 PM
Nov 2021

...would take me and my wife, since we'd pretty much have to buy our way in.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,436 posts)
3. All good points, plus
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 04:33 PM
Nov 2021

Mueller left a roadmap to prosecute MF45 and his corrupt administration once he left office. We still haven't gotten to see the reporting its apparently all gathering dust on a shelf somewhere.

It's really a shame that we can't go to a supposedly "liberal democratic " website to air those opinions and discuss them without being told to "love" Maserati Manchin and getting called an impatient ninny

Silent3

(15,450 posts)
5. If I have any hope left at all, it's that...
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 04:50 PM
Nov 2021

...the economy might, just might be back in better shape by time the next election rolls around (it's not really that bad right now, but, ya know, "perception" ), and maybe COVID will have gone from pandemic to endemic and not as big of a political concern.

But when you add the historical record for all President's parties usually losing Congressional seats in the midterms, and Republican voter suppression and even voter negation by Republican legislatures on top of that, holding Congress in 2022 will be a miracle.

The only other factor I can think of to possibly sway things in favor of Democrats is the results of various investigations into Trump finally bearing fruit, like the Georgia election interference case or various New York cases (I'm not holding out for the DoJ doing much).

But even then, voters would have to care that Trump, and so many of his supporters and henchmen, are corrupt. I don't think they do care. It's all just a sideshow. Even among those who might care, many would just say "they're all corrupt" and figure Democrats are just as bad as Republicans even without evidence of that being true.

Peregrine Took

(7,420 posts)
4. 'Getting used to the idea nothing will ever happen to trump, etc.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 04:37 PM
Nov 2021

Maybe some minor folks will get some jail time but no one of any consequence.

Like Bush and the phony Iraq war - no consequences there either. I recall reading that our top generals liked to hang around the George V hotel bar in Paris and drink single malt scotch. I assume that's where some of the 6 trillion (cost of war) or was it the 8 billion that is still missing was spent.

How long can we go on like this - shoveling our world class screw ups under the rug with our leaders saying we must "go forward."

Silent3

(15,450 posts)
7. Wow... I had to hunt a bit for confirmation of that story first.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 05:01 PM
Nov 2021

But, yes, some good news! Finally!

Must have just broken moments ago, I only see the story on CNN.com, not MSNBC or my Apple News feed or NYT or WP alerts yet.

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