My place of work is implementing a vaccine mandate!!

[Coventina]

1. Yipee!!

2. There is going to be a virtual "town hall" about it in 2 hours.

3. I look forward to RWNJ tears!!!

[Laffy Kat]

1. Good! You'll have a much safer workplace.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Congrats, my dear Coventina! To the Greatest Page with your outstanding post! ♥

[Coventina]

3. Thanks CP!

I am so excited that FINALLY the flat-earthers won't be running the show!

[Coventina]

4. Town Hall has started. So far 732 people are in the virtual meeting

And more people are logging in all the time.

So far, no comments in the chat.....

Attendance now 782

Attendance is now 834

[Coventina]

5. First whine: Why do we have to do it if we're remote workers? n/t

[Luciferous]

47. Already heard this one in my office. Our remote workers still come in once a week

so they can stfu

[Coventina]

6. Employees must have completed their vaccination by Jan 7th

First Moderna shot has to be by Nov. 26th!!

Pfizer needs first by 12/3

[Coventina]

7. Second whine: How, specifically, are we a government contractor?

[Skittles]

48. employees are sometimes very surprised to learn how their work is government-connected

yes indeed

[Runningdawg]

8. If you work with a lot of science deniers who quit be prepared for a double-edged sword.

Hubby's workplace mandated 11-1. Since then his days have been at least 12 hours. He worked 16 hours Thurs, Friday and will do so again today. His job now also includes working every other weekend and being on call when he is not working. I seriously doubt I will see him on Thanksgiving either. Covidiots ruin ANOTHER holiday season.

[Skittles]

49. that sounds exactly like my schedule

including both Thanksgiving and Christmas!

[Coventina]

9. Third whine: What about HIPAA laws?

Funny how federal law is now suddenly a matter of concern.

[Coventina]

10. Fourth whine: This mandate isn't legal. n/t

[Coventina]

11. Fifth whine: Compliance, like we are cattle.

[Meowmee]

12. Mine did that a while back

However they are allowing medical and religious exemptions. So it is somewhat of a joke. I am worried because I will be wip for the first time eventually and I will have no way of knowing who is vaxed. I think everyone will still have to mask which I am not looking forward to either. And I may have to police the mask wearing. I am boosted now so hopefully have the max protection.

[Coventina]

13. Sixth whine: This is COERSION, about money and control, I will file an accomodation.

I will not comply.

[Coventina]

14. Seventh whine: I am not loading a tracking program to my phone.

(Like you don't already have 15 trackers on your phone already)

[Coventina]

15. Here's what I believe to be a CT:

"There is a study coming from the Department of Molecular Biosciences, The Wenner-Gren Institute Stockhol [sic?] University. It shows that the vaccine can enter the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1"

I'll google this later, wondering if it's already been debunked.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. It's True

They have an article on their website about it.
It's not peer reviewed. In fact, from what I read, I'm not sure it's even finished.
I don't know what this outfit's reputation is, though.

[Coventina]

43. Interesting. It was brought up a whole bunch of times in the chat.

Almost to the point of spamming the chat.

They seem to be really hanging their hopes on that study.

[ProfessorGAC]

44. Well, Well

I found this on PubMed.
Wenner-Gren published this report and it does appear valid.
BUT........
This paper appears to be about how COVID causes this DNA repair inhibition. This paper is NOT about the vaccines.
There might be another paper, but nothing remotely close showed up on the search page where I found this.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34696485/
Also, I found other Wenner-Gren releases on the importance of getting vaccinated.
It may be that the anti-vax crowd is intentionally distorting this study to make it seem like it's about the vax instead of about the spike on the virus itself.

[Coventina]

16. Ah, the mythical friend of a friend!!!

"My grandpa's brother was in good health. He got the vaccine and started feeling sick in a few hours. His health continually declined for 60 days before he died."

[Coventina]

17. This again:

"Sars-Cov-2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro. Typical Narrative, ignore those that disagree with you."

Any DUers heard this one?

I'm assuming it's pure CT

[Skittles]

50. see the Professor's response #44

yes indeed

[Coventina]

18. I don't remember this?

"Even your corrupt Biden said in Dec 4, 2020 that he would not mandate the vaccine, he Lied"

I don't remember Biden ever saying this.

[Coventina]

19. Keep in mind, Arizona is a "right to work" state:

"People are being forced to get a vaccine or get fired. This is a political based, you can't be neutral on this subject."

Gee, where were you when unions were being busted?

[DeeNice]

20. thanks for inviting us to your meeting ;)

It's like we're right there with ya.
But we've heard it all before anyway...

[Coventina]

21. Eight whine: One word: UNCONSTITUTIONAL

[Coventina]

22. Ninth whine: This mandate is illegal.

[Coventina]

23. And, first mention of Nazis:

"Doesn't the Nuremberg Code state that you can't be forced to participate in a clinical trial? The vaccine available in the US is NOT the vaccine that has been rushed through FDA approval"

How is this a clinical trial? Those have already been completed.

[barbtries]

24. honestly it's the only responsible thing for any company to do.

i'm glad you work at a place that recognizes how important it is.

[Coventina]

25. Now there's talk of a walkout.

Good luck guys!

Arizona is a "right to work" state!

[Coventina]

26. Tenth whine: We do not have to comply! Stand up to your employees freedom!

I'm not even entirely sure what that means......

[Coventina]

27. Funny how all of a sudden presidential powers are a problem....

"This is a COMPLETE overreach by the federal goverrnment [sic] and is unprecedented in our country!"

[Xolodno]

29. Where I work...

...they are allowing you to voluntarily come back to the office ONLY if you are vaccinated. And you have to submit proof. On the Workplace chat, bunch of people went nuts. They have to know its coming, mandated vaccinations or leave.

Don't know if they will allow religious/philosophical exemptions...but if you apply for one, I bet it will be career suicide.

[Coventina]

30. Did Southwest Airlines pilots stage a walkout?

Someone is saying that they did, refusing to be vaccinated and that they won the issue?

Anybody know about this?

[Skittles]

52. they didn't

there was all those flights canceled that repukes rumored to be due to a walkout but it was not true

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2021/10/11/southwest-airlines-union-says-pilots-did-not-walk-out-to-protest-vaccine-mandates/

[Coventina]

31. I don't think they realize that their names are visible on the chat

"We will not comply. We will not show our papeers [sic]"

[Coventina]

32. What is this crackpot going on about?

"The FDA did NOT grant approval of ONE vaccine available in the US - only Conmerity that is NOT available in the US."

[Coventina]

33. Anybody know what this is in reference to?

"We actually don't need to comply. Printz v. United States has the Anti-Commandeering doctrine, which states that the federal government does not have the authority to order state agencies to enfore [sic] orders."

[Coventina]

34. More whining:

"the world is watching and standting [sic] up its time for us to stand up too. we are human beings and we are suposed [sic]to be protected by nurenburg [sic] code, this is illigal [sic]. this is a human rights issue."

[Coventina]

36. Welcome to DU, as a welcome gift, we will give you a pizza.

What would you like on it?

[Jim G.]

37. LOL!

[Celerity]

38. stick to cupping Trump's jacobs

[Coventina]

39. Hahaha! Someone is asking if a "naturopath" exemption is acceptable.

[Coventina]

40. "I'm not anti-vax but"

[Xolodno]

41. One thing is for certain...

...this exposes the idiots who work for the company. I'll bet their work gets a bit more scrutinized soon.

[Coventina]

42. Meeting over now. I look forward to this proposed "walkout".

Lots of ignorance being bandied about.

COVIDIOTS = a special kind of stupid.

[ProfessorGAC]

45. Walkout! LOL!

The company will shake these refusers off like dog gets its back dry.
There are still upper managers that think the Welch Maneuver (shed the bottom 5% of the workforce every year) is a fine idea.
Rapid inferences will be the refusers are problem children and are in that 5%.
They'll happily terminate them.
Especially if your company pays well. There will be candidates for the gig signing up online within a few hours.
This "walkout" is more like voluntary separation.

[TomSlick]

46. I hate to be the one to break this to you.

From your running commentary, some of your co-workers are idiots.

[Skittles]

51. I'm pretty sure Coventina already knew that

yes INDEED