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@LindseyGrahamSC
Joe Biden is trying to be the most progressive president since FDR.
Biden is trying to be the progressive president that Obama was afraid to be!
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grumpyduck
(6,294 posts)figuring out where he was coming from. All I could think of was brown-nosing.
Grab the popcorn, folks!
live love laugh
(13,222 posts)pretty much. Thats why they HATE us.
Rhiannon12866
(206,925 posts)Response to grumpyduck (Reply #1)
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Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Same old story.
msfiddlestix
(7,289 posts)In fact, with the exception of John Bircher's I had never anyone of either party speak in any negative way of FDR.
Only very extreme right wingers as mentioned, I didn't consider them mainstream thought.
Of course not until now. Lindsey speaking as if this were a bad a thing. Seriously bizarre turn of events.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)I'm talking since the 1960's.
FDR is not well liked among the rethuglican base or powers that be.
Not just the kooks.
AS far as Dems, I've talked to a very few conservative Democrats who tell me they are Dems (really doubt it - they are libertarian if anything) but literally BLAST FDR's policies. These are mostly Union Dems - go figure.
msfiddlestix
(7,289 posts)But yeah, I do realize the John Birch then Rush Limpball influenced and drummed up hate for him over the years.
But Union people?? Seriously effed up.
UpInArms
(51,295 posts)What a tool
Escurumbele
(3,417 posts)whathehell
(29,111 posts)LT Barclay
(2,618 posts)I go back and forth based on my criteria which is "who faced the greatest challenges and who best met them."
To me there were 3 that faced events that could have ended our country and/or radically altered the world in a bad way.
Which leaves Washington, Lincoln and FDR. Currently I'm leaning FDR.
whathehell
(29,111 posts)as you'll see at the link, some rank FDR as the second, not third, greatest president.
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2017/?page=overall
PatSeg
(47,770 posts)and it wasn't the bombshell he'd expected it to be. Oops!
Haggard Celine
(16,867 posts)But really, only John Birchers are nutty enough to say things like that. The John Birch Society, the Federalist Society, the Heritage Foundation, all those are supposed to be loyal, pure Americans like Lindsey, but there's something wrong with FDR. That gives you a glimpse of Lindsey's twisted soul.
Escurumbele
(3,417 posts)Two of the best presidents this country has had, FDR and Teddy Roosevelt, both progressives.
LT Barclay
(2,618 posts)FOX for their daily talking points because whatever was "good" when Trump, Bush, etc. were president is now "bad" when a Democrat does the same thing (the ACA was apparently the same thing that was passed in MA).
So I doubt if they even remember FDR.
And if they want to bring him up, my new "sound bite" is that for defense, I'll stick with the party of the president who won WW2, when was the last time a Republican won a war?
And If I'm concerned about the economy, I'll stick with the guy who got us out of the great depression.
And if they persist about the war thing, and its a southerner, I'll ask them why they hooked up with the party of the president who kicked their butt.
Haggard Celine
(16,867 posts)especially the one about Republicans not winning wars. They might come to a stalemate sometimes, but they don't really win. And that's where Republicans are supposed to excel, with their bellicose rhetoric and their bloated military budgets. The only thing they can really ever do is tax cuts, mainly for the wealthy, and they're also good at cutting essential services for the public, especially the most needy, vulnerable people. That's all they know how to do. Why can't more people see this?
KS Toronado
(17,470 posts)Rs love to start wars and will do everything in their power to keep them going to reward the
Military Industrial Complex with more profits, since they're their biggest donors.
LT Barclay
(2,618 posts)But that was not one to brag about because according to James Bradley it was just the US trying to join the imperialism game
Your statement is correct. L Fletcher Prouty, Smedley Butler and others really exposed that ugly secret.
Permanut
(5,714 posts)Said "FDR's dead, and we want to make sure all his programs are as well".
Paraphrasing,
Haggard Celine
(16,867 posts)They follow Limbaugh's every word, and if he hated FDR, then so do they. There's probably a bunch of them who have his old shows recorded and they sit around and cry while they nod their heads.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Marcuse
(7,561 posts)doc03
(35,454 posts)the Matt Gaetz's, Marjorie Taylor Green and the other troll Boebert are the new scum.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)geardaddy
(24,933 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)William Seger
(10,793 posts)... make me LMAO.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... with his click-clack patent leather shoes stomping all the way down the marble-floor corridors of the Capitol building. He's having another tantrum.
Escurumbele
(3,417 posts)he is being sarcastic? Or...he just wanted to take a jab at Obama?
Lindsey, what a little man you are, and it is not because your height, it is because of your character, your lack of principles and morals, and because you have no dignity. Go and smell trump's butt.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)tavernier
(12,428 posts)Finally got your conscience on?
FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)It wasn't that Obama was "afraid" to be progressive. It was that the Senate Repukes made it impossible.
ZonkerHarris
(24,304 posts)bdamomma
(63,974 posts)Lindsay doesn't know anything about being progressive.
dsp3000
(491 posts)Can you imagine the uproar from whites if he came out guns blazing like Biden did, about racial justice and criminal reform? Or about all the handouts to his welfare queens if he came out with the BBB plan?
Still the greatest president in my lifetime. Hopefully Biden tops him
ShazamIam
(2,577 posts)some other Republicans stood on the steps of the Capital and swore they would stop that president and that House and the Senate from passing anything. But we did get a national health plan for the first time since Reagan closed all the county hospitals and clinics back in the 1980s, by pulling their federal funding.
DownriverDem
(6,237 posts)see Biden for the good man he is who is trying to help us. They need to trust him. They need to see the repubs for who they are. They don't want Biden/Dems to get legislative wins. They don't care if it hurts the country. They disgust me on so many levels
ecstatic
(32,798 posts)asshole.
DFW
(54,515 posts)Barack Obama was cautious and deliberative. If you would turn off Fox Noise and pick up a dictionary, you would even find that he was conservative. You can hijack the word, but you cant hijack its true definition.
GoodRaisin
(8,936 posts)He's doing it.
IronLionZion
(45,667 posts)It takes an FDR style president to rebuild America after Trump and COVID.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Is he switching sides?
Whatever, the endorsement is much appreciated.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)For the sake of the American people and the entire world.
Fuck Lindsey Graham and all his little cohorts too.