The American Conservative: How dare you call us Nazis!

[kpete]

This appears to be the GOP right now saying antifascists are smearing the good name of fascism by equating it with nazism. so that happened.

THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE
NEW: "The antifascist left smears their 'fascist' opponents with the Nazi and anti-Semitic label. However, fascism and Nazism are not identical." https://buff.ly/3Dwj4NU

Link to tweet

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[Hortensis]

1. Lol, it's true. Naziism is only one type of fascism, just as

Republican neonazis are only one type of fascists, and similarly (very!) trumpist neonazis are only one type of neonazis.

[paleotn]

7. The venn diagram appears to be one nice, neat circle.

with microscopic non-overlap.

[Hortensis]

13. Seems like it, though I imagine any strongman worth his baton

could move any of the groups out of alignment just by ordering it to goosestep one direction or another.

[tenderfoot]

2. Best response

Link to tweet

[multigraincracker]

3. Next defense might be

White Nationalism.

[eppur_se_muova]

4. So they're "only" fascists, not Nazis ? Imagine my relief !

Here I was thinking they're full-blown Nazis, when they're only full-blown fascists. I hope they can hold their breath while I formulate an apology.

[haele]

5. Ah, the old "We may be fascists, but don't call us Nazis" defense.

So that particular organization claims it isn't anti-Semite, so long as the Jews in their organization fall in line with the majority of the fascist Mafia expectations and prey on liberals.

Of course, the typical Jewish religious adherents, like all non-radical religious members, are still on the "eventually get rid of" of.list, because they aren't willing to be cruelly militant enough for the State.

Haele

[louis-t]

10. "We may be dumb, but we're not stupid" is no way to go through life, son.

[paleotn]

6. Nazism was just fascism....

Hitler style. While guilty of just as much domestic brutality and war crimes as the Nazis, Mussolini and Franco were somewhat perplexed by Hitler's obsession with Jews. No worry though. Nazis were "good" fascists, just with some local quirks Il Duce and Franco ignored for the most part.

Sorry, American fascists. You cannot separate Nazi atrocities from fascism. They are one and the same.

[SKKY]

8. It's like this Navy Chief I used to work for would say...

..."If you're explaining, you're losing." If we have them debating the difference between fascism and Nazism, I feel like that's a win.

[haele]

12. They teach us that saying before initiation.

Then, in the bad old days, had us go through various tests and trials to, err, "re-enforce" that and and other common sense leadership sayings.

Haele

[Silent3]

22. While that's often true, I actually hate that rule-of thumb.

Explaining shouldn't be losing, it only turns out that way because of stupid and ignorant perople who don't want to think things through. Republicans take advantage of that ignorance against Democrats all the time.

It's a win, of sorts, when Democrats can play that rule against Republicans, but I still hate what it means about having to work around the stupid way so many people think.

[SKKY]

24. I don't necessarily like it either, but we do live in a time when most people's attention...

...span doesn't extend past what can be captured on a bumper sticker. So, I'm fine using it against them because you know they would for sure beat us over the head with it if they could.

[S/V Loner]

9. There is so much wrong with the editorial I ...

can't even begin to dissect it.

[GoCubsGo]

11. Well, they're kind of correct.

Technically, they are Neo-Nazis, not actual Nazis. Nazis believed in the superiority of Germans. With Neo-Nazis, you just have to be white. At least they're admitting that they're fascists.

[Progressive Jones]

17. Well, technically, nobody cares what they want to call themselves.

They're all undesirable garbage that our nation needs to crush in order to survive.

I think it's hilarious when they try to "intellectualize" their scumbaggery.

[sanatanadharma]

14. Nazi, Fascist, differences without distinction; tomato tomahtoh

I will certainly name them as they wish to be called.
And call them anti-American as well.

"Gee! America hater, if you don't like it here, go back to 1933"

[Progressive Jones]

15. Now they want to split hairs over what type of scumbags they are? nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

16. Lol! As if we needed that clarification about all...

... fascists not necessarily being Nazis!

And it's written like a defense of fascism, as if that's a decent political ideology!

More evidence that Republicans are heading further toward fascism, as several on DU have been pointing out for years.

[CousinIT]

18. Literally, the Republican Party right now:

[Bettie]

19. So, they prefer the title Fascist

to Nazi.

Perhaps it would ring more true if they had fewer swastikas at their hoedowns.

[TrogL]

20. Would be nice if he defined what he means by "fascism"

If you make it to the end he gets on "the election was stole" bandwagon.

'nuff said.

[Kid Berwyn]

21. Because it's true.

The Nazification of the Republican Party

By Loretta J. Ross
Counterpunch, Jan. 20, 2021

After World War II, the Nazis who helped Hitler rise to power and murder millions of people, including at least 6 million Jews, were put on trial to send a warning to the world. Not all of them faced a judicial process, but enough were not protected by their high status, official offices, or claims of “innocence” and “patriotism.” Power through violence was the only language they spoke—not justice, not freedom—and they were held accountable. These criminals faced a tribunal at Nürnberg (Nuremberg) so momentous that the disgraced word “Nazi” is forever attached to those who participated in and enabled their horrific crimes.

After the war, Germany banned Nazi flags and neo-Nazis. In fact, the only way that Nazi paraphernalia got into Germany was through smuggling from other countries such as the United States, like from Nazi propagandist Gerhard Lauck in Nebraska, the man called the “Farm Belt Führer” who served four years in a German prison for distributing banned pro-Nazi materials throughout Europe.

I know this because I teach a course on White Supremacy at Smith College that focuses on anti-Semitism, anti-Black racism, and the many intersecting components of white supremacist ideology. After more than 30 years of organizing and teaching about fascism as a Black feminist activist and academic, I know the destructive influence of these noxious ideas, and I teach young people how to interpret and resist them.

Global contempt for the word “Nazi” is a lesson for us today in the United States after the attempted criminal coup at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. Anyone identified as sympathetic, supportive, or financing these seditious acts that attempted to deny the peaceful transfer of power in our country should be treated with the same public condemnation that the Nazis received after World War II. This includes Nazified people in Congress, in the media, in universities, in regular jobs, and throughout society because fascism is not the fevered dream of one delusional man. Trump is a white supremacist; that he is also a deranged narcissist is really incidental.

Continues...

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/20/the-nazification-of-the-republican-party/

PS: If the hobnailed boot fits, wear it, ‘Pukes.

[Equomba]

23. Although I don't necessarily agree with Josh Marshall's take on this,

the study of fascism is a complicated endeavor... with many substantial scholars/authors on the topic ultimately reaching different results.

Paul Gottfried is nothing if not a rancid, disgusting piece of reich-wing garbage. So even though he might be partially correct in his conclusion, he should be considered an outlier who is worthy of contempt.