Supply Chain Shortages?

[Throck]

My uncles and aunts weathered WWII and all the rationing just fine. Radio listening to FDR. No TV in the house. Up at dawn to do farm chores and tend crops. When gas was tight hand tools were used to handle the row crops.

People today worried about not getting their 5th flat screen smart TV, X-Boxes or imported wine for Christmas.

Between the great depression and WWII my uncles in the CCC planted half the counties forest, built the picnic shelters and drill the water wells.

They ate a lot of cabbage and potatoes. Grandpa told me the story of eating the road kill deer he hit two days before Christmas.

Walmart and Target with empty shelves? Society needs to figure out what it wants vs what it needs.

[Hoyt]

1. Lot of truth in that. Unfortunately, nowadays, Biden or any Prez would have a hard time

telling people to stop buying anything but necessities to help with the issue.

Hate to think what would happen in this country if we had a national emergency that wiped out millions people and the rest of us had to work together or make do for a few years. Covid-19 was just a test. trump made it worse, but I think 50 - 60% cooperating would be about the best we'd do.

[VarryOn]

2. In other words, lower our expectations. No thanks. I'm not up for a WWII lifestyle...

I like air conditioning, Diet Coke, and petite filet, too much.

I get what you're saying, but nowadays, it's not too much to expect shelves to be filled. We've progressed since your uncles' days. And with a $15 minimum wage or near in lots of places, I expect commensurate service.

This ain't Uzbekistan.

[Ferrets are Cool]

15. It might not be too long until we wished that we had the lifestyle of those in

Uzbekistan. Vote like your life depended on it.

And no, we are a coddled. spoiled country. The entire thing would shut down if our cell phones were taken away.

[VarryOn]

18. I've been to Uzbekistan...

Great people. A shithole country, nonetheless. Food sucked. Only place I've eaten horse.

[Kaleva]

26. climate change will take care of that.

People won't be thinking of diet Coke when facing outright starvation.

[Hassler]

3. Target and Walmart are reporting booming sales. Doesn't sound like

They have shortages.

[Amishman]

7. all depends on what you are looking for

consumer goods are mostly just supply disruptions. The pandemic shutdowns drained what little slack was in the supply chain, goods go straight out from distribution centers to stores. There isn't much inventory beyond what is on the shelf, so if the shelf goes bare, it might be a few days or a week until it gets restocked.

Construction is completely up side down right now. We have a relative who is having the home renovation from hell (house being reworked to move bedroom to first floor and other changes due to mobility issues). There was a mixup on the new front door, and its going to be sixteen weeks to get the correct door. They actually salvaged the old one out of the reno dumpster and temp framed it back in place. This is just one of at least half a dozen things that have gone horribly wrong due to materials availability.

[bluesbassman]

4. My dad grew up during the Depression, then served in the Pacific Theater in WWII.

We talked extensively about his experiences during those two dissimilar crisis, and one thing always struck me as something that bound them; the sacrifices for “the common good” that ordinary citizens endured. To be sure, many people weren’t thrilled about those sacrifices, who would be, but endure them they did, and even went a over and beyond to help their neighbors.

If the Covid pandemic taught us nothing else, it taught us that a great many of our friends, neighbors, co-workers, and family do not possess the honor, decency, and moral compass to survive another Great Depression or World War. I miss my father terribly, but I’m glad he’s not here to observe what the Country he fought so valiantly for has devolved into.

[UpInArms]

5. Nice sentiment... but

Dreams of yesterday and comparisons with today’s society do not work

My grandmother was born in 1894, crossed the plains in a covered wagon, lived in a mud dugout, had the ice man deliver weekly …

Was there when the automobile was introduced, was a suffragette, saw the railroad rule the plains … saw airplanes take over the skies … watched a man land on the moon ….

Counted on the grocery store for eggs when she was 90 …

So what are you saying?

[CanonRay]

6. My grandmother was born in 1898

Homesteaded in far northern Wisconsin, helped form the International Ladies Garment Workers Union in Milwaukee. Tough generation.

[UpInArms]

17. Gram always said that she lived an amazing life

she taught me so much about just being alive.

[cinematicdiversions]

8. My cats want their Friskies Shreds cat food.

There is no Friskies Shreds cat food.

My cats already lean republican (like most cats) and I am afraid this may cause us to lose thier vote in 2024. Especially the fat orange tom.

[pstokely]

24. how many jobs have your fat cats created?

how much do they give to GQP?

[Skittles]

9. I hear you

my mum was a kid during WWII in England and my dad survived the Depression.....they did without a lot.......it just makes me sick hearing Americans whining about temporary shortages, wearing a mask, etc

[BobTheSubgenius]

10. I heard a great quote that lines up quite well with your tale.

Paraphrasing here. "There are millions of people that not only can't afford food, there is no food for them to buy, even if they had money. Here, we are annoyed if we can't get our preferred kind of mango in February."

[leftstreet]

12. Ugh. I hate these threads romanticizing poverty

As if back breaking labor and a diet of cabbage and potatoes has any relation to some bizarre moral purity

Our collective ancestors would most likely be happy and relieved that their descendants know much less of the poverty and deprivation they experienced

[Throck]

23. My aunts, uncles, parents, grandparents never saw themselves as poor.

They learned how to adapt, work as a family team and did okay. They didn't consider growing up without a TV a sacrifice. (More of a blessing today.) One family sharing one car. Oh the horror. They pretty much all lived into their late 80s. One in his 70s is still running the farm.

I'm seeing a society with no ability to sacrifice or understand the concept of it.

[pstokely]

25. you spoiled young whipper snappers

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[denbot]

13. Walmart and Target..

I don't know about Target, but Walmart is overwhelmingly sourced from China. Live by the long distant sweatshop, die by long distant sweatshop

[orleans]

19. i remember walmart used to have signs hahging up all over their store: "MADE IN THE USA"

obviously things changed.

[rickford66]

14. Wegman's didn't have my Necco Wafers.

Damn

[rickford66]

20. Sad

[rickford66]

22. My God. The humanity.

[Kaleva]

27. Think of this as training for adapting to climate change.

Get used to getting by with a lot less.

[MissMillie]

28. Not just affecting luxuries

unless you consider feminine hygiene products luxurious.

Or pancake syrup (that was the item I couldn't get yesterday).


I do understand your point about sacrifice, and you do indeed have a point.


My household has been financially strapped for some time. Maple syrup was on my list of ingredients for Thanksgiving dinner, and while we can't really afford the real stuff, I was happy to settle for pancake syrup. There wasn't even one bottle at the store

Being as broke as we are, there isn't a lot to look forward to. A holiday meal is a treat. So yeah, we make the sacrifice of finding another recipe for our sweet potatoes and our apple/maple bread pudding, or we'll change the menu. We don't really have a choice.

But it's disappointing. It gets tough when you don't expect much to begin with, and then you can't even have that.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. From the Hoarse Whisperer

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[traitorsgalore]

30. From every story I've read the only things on those ships are Made-in-China toys and appliances

I guess if someone needs a cheap dishwasher or refrigerator then they're out of luck.

[Throck]

31. If it's plastic stuff that ends up at the Dollar Store send it back.

Useless waste of oil.